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SV: SV: {UAH} AHOLI LEADERS SHOULD LOOK FEDERAL.

Simon
Or both?!

I do not know for sure. I just go by what is posted here and there and a few years back, he wrote something about Uganda Journalists Club etc.  It doesn't make any difference to me.

He wrote that  "Gen Moses Ali and Madi" were ready for talks. I wish he supplies us with what is on agenda for  the dialogue and methodical structure instead of making sweeping statements implicating Gen Moses Ali , IF HE HAS NOT YET BEEN ASSIGNED TO MEDIATE IN THE CONFLICT,that is.?
Noc'l la gaumoy 
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den måndag, 26 juni 2017 0:47 skrev 'Simon Okurut' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>:


Nockrach,

Please tell me, is Ahmed Kateregga a journalist or reporter? I thought he is a reporter.

Peter Simon



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Ahmed Katereggga,
I am battling keenly to interprete your meaning hereunder:

"............I see GEN. MOSES ALI AND MADI LEADERS AS READY FOR TALKS OTHER THAN
HON OUKLANYAH AND ACHOLI LEADERS WHO ARE FOR CONFRONTATION.
................"
 
I don't know if it is the political Kateregga or the Journalist Kateregga.

As a journalist, I expect you to have visited the schene and know who respective leaders are.

You name Gen Moses Ali here. Has he been assigned to act to resolve the conflict? what is his capacity here?

I do know Gen Moses is well versed with the area himself being from West Nile and knows the Anaka area well. But, is he a Madi leader?

Since he is a Minister, in my opinion, his role would not be as a member of the Madi team.

And by the way is there any structural and methodical approach that you know of since you say that Gen Moses Ali is ready for talks? WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA?

And who are those Acoli leaders who are for confrontation?!??! And how do you arrive at that conclusion if the conflict resolution procedure and agenda has not been  disclosed?

I do agree with you though, that certain  politicians use the conflict to promote their own wicked agenda.
Since you are a journalist, please supply us with some of those details
Noc'la gaumoy

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den lördag, 24 juni 2017 12:32 skrev 'Ocaya Mike pOcure' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>:


Ndugu OKUONZIFellow Ugandans, and UAH folks,
Frankly, the whole of us know both Acoli and Madi folks had been living together as good neighbours for centuries whereby there were exchanges of marriages between our two folks without any brutal political confusions as it started some few years till currently. Yes, both Acoli and Madi have traditional and, or customary land tenure systems which shall be threatened with expansions of our populations, but let us agree that our traditional values shall prevailed since both our people have hopes for peaceful coexistence without fear as the way forward.
Sadly, the Land conflicts in Uganda, are by far currently, is the biggest crises afflicting our folks today. Communities have clashed over competing claims to forestland. This means, I think both Acoli and Madi political and civil societies must try to work hard to get solutions to this ongoing land crisis among our two folks without very heavy external political pressures. Clearly, I think our traditional values had been built on the ethics of clear compromise as the way forward which I belief had given our traditional leaders to value our concerns for the generations to come than living on the nuance of now without tomorrow!
Lastly, I think there must be true compromises between both Acoli and Madi folks as the way forward for peaceful coexistence with hopes without fear. Let both our folks think hard about the futures of our children and grandchildren those would inherit the legacies of our great grandparents of peaceful coexistence, which brought marriages among both Acoli and Madi folks. Let us agree our folks have not been enemies, hence the strong bondages of our blood through marriages had been the very strong steam-engine to move us forward for a peaceful coexistences without fear and the political pressures from outsiders shall not force us into massacring our own blood!
 
Ocaya pOcure
 
 
 


Den fredag, 23 juni 2017 17:33 skrev Ronald Okuonzi <okuonzir@gmail.com>:


Mr Katerega , Can you recall vaguely even if not , in 1979 the Ma'di and Aringa– a community of Lugbara People , about 15,000  who happened to have lived and established themselves only on / in Acholi Land in Uganda / East Nile were all slaughtered , massacred , killed with impunity

When will the Acholis or together with with their LUO - NILOTIC GROUPS learn to live together with others wether in a Unitary State or Federal State they want to create in Uganda or (East Nile / Uganda) to become Federal State ------ (Lol !) 

2017-06-22 9:57 GMT+02:00 Ahmed Kateregga <ahmedkatereggamusaazi@gmail.com>:
I see GEN. MOSES ALI AND MADI LEADERS AS READY FOR TALKS OTHER THAN
HON OUKLANYAH AND ACHOLI LEADERS WHO ARE FOR CONFRONTATION.

On 6/22/17, Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <kwotkaka@gmail.com> wrote:
> Akim is in Walla-Walla land. He doesn't know or he forgets Acholi leaders
> are themselves far divided than ever - unless he wants to be that unifying
> dictatorial leader to forcefully stitch the divisions into one piece. Kony
> fidgeted with the idea but evaporated into Garamba forest mists.
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 5:08 PM, 'moodysenyonjo@yahoo.com' via Ugandans at
> Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@ googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Akim, it seems to me like regional powers/leaders e.g. district chairman
>> of Amwuru & Adjumani, Mps etc have failed to agree on the way forward and
>> now central government has to step in. Innocent wanainchi should not be
>> the
>> ones paying with dear life for politicians gambits as we see in Apaa.
>> Opening up boundaries is definitely beneficial for administrative and
>> commercial purposes and I don't see why that should be a point of
>> contention.
>> My two cents
>> Moody
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:31 AM, 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
>> Community
>> <ugandans-at-heart@ googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> Long time I hadn't had from this idiot ...hello Akim Adongo
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: akim odong <akimodong@gmail.com>
>> Date: 6/21/17 12:14 PM (GMT+04:00)
>> To: "'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community"
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>> Subject: {UAH} AHOLI LEADERS SHOULD LOOK FEDERAL.
>>
>> *People;*
>>
>>
>>
>> *The current insecurity in the north has taken my eye off the current
>> political drama in the UK. The continuous confrontation along Acoli-Madi
>> border  among the Apaa residents is a clear testimony that more regional
>> power to deal with regional issues is much needed. Such clashes will
>> increase in scope and intensity if decision is made far away, by a gov't
>> with little or no idea of the history of the place. A federal
>> administration, therefore, is best suited to handle complex issues. As
>> Acholi leaders far and wide ponder over the issue, they should realise
>> that
>> a far away government is not fit to deal with such local and historical
>> issues and therefore its incumbent that they consider the notion of local
>> solution for local problem as the best approach. A concept federalists
>> having been calling and will continue to pursue as future panacea to
>> Ugandans fractured nation. My call to Acholi leaders and all Ugandan, is
>> to
>> embrace federalism in order to have grasp on local issues. *
>> *FEDBY20/20 Campaign. Supporting federalism as a system of governance in
>> future Uganda.*
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