RE: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE

Bobby Musoke

 

Now that I have a time to ask serious questions that have bothered me a while, to your thinking, why did Buganda Kingdom, one of the oldest not only in Uganda but throughout Africa become such a political prostitute after independence? There are other Kingdoms in Uganda if one were to refer to them as such that did not and have not prostituted themselves:

(1) Bunyoro Kitara
(2) Kyabazinga of Busoga
(3) Jal Osinga of Alur (Balulu)

Now one would like to add Rwoth Acama of Acholi, but this one has a lot of question marks on it because it has several elements of prostitution in it since 1986 when Museveni declared himself Omugabe of Ankole. He has almost incorporated the Acholi into the Hima clan. It is hard to believe that a Kingdom which prides itself of old age 600 years can become a "Malaya" in such a disgraceful manner while other Kingdoms in Africa such as Ashanti of Ghana, Swati of Swaziland and Sotho of Lesotho have retained their dignity. One can as well opine that the collapse of "Ekitibwa kya Buganda, of Baganda" is one of the reasons post-colonial Uganda as a nation has failed to live to its expectations. Allowing "abakopi" Balalo to take command has led to the nightmare we face today.

 

How has this kingdom agreed its self to go this low?   Just asking !!!!!

 

EM

On the 49^th Parallel          

                 Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
                    Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko"

 

From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Musoke
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:52 PM
To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE

 

Sitidde Afande Allan Barigye,

 

But me shaking hands with these Acholis and Langis who were murdering my people not so long ago is not in the cards.

 

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Allan <barigye.rugos@gmail.com> wrote:

In one short answer, YES! Otherwise monarchy of some kind is inevitable

On Nov 7, 2014 10:42 PM, "Bobby Musoke" <bobbymusoke@gmail.com> wrote:

Afande  Allan Barigye,

 

You are asking me to shake hands with people who are  not willing to acknowledge any of the crimes they have committed against Buganda from 1966 up to 1985.

 

Museveni agira afuga.

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Allan <barigye.rugos@gmail.com> wrote:

Mukulu Bobby,

The day a muganda greets an Acholi with one firm hand shake and says kopango,  Museveni will gone like yesterday.
Take this to bank. Its cashable!

On Nov 7, 2014 8:11 PM, "Bobby Musoke" <bobbymusoke@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Noc'la Gaumoy,

 

Mr Frank Mujabi answered your question about prospects for the North.

 

I see no need to join forces with people like you for now or the immediate future.

 

You no longer have the gun that you used under Obote to keep Buganda in line.

 

Go ahead and find a way to compel people like me to join you if you can.

 

 

 

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:15 AM, 'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Bobby,

I shall be honest with you: IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE FAILED TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO ACHIEVE YOUR CONVICTIONS.

 

If you did, you would not be crying. And you know why? Because there are a lot of promineces out there

who do not believe in your vision. If they did, they would be supporting you.

 

So, you resort to utopia.

Now let me ask you another straight question:

How many companies, industries or mere places of work in Gulu EMPLOYS MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE?

 

WHAT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE?

 

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE BAGANDA THAT WERE IN THE NRM? They used to be much more than the northerners

combined.

 

Please answer those question and see if you don't understand that our people have to join the forces

regardless!!!!!

Noc'l

 

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

 

Den torsdag, 6 november 2014 15:08 skrev Bobby Musoke <bobbymusoke@gmail.com>:

 

Mr Moses Ocen,

 

I hope you are following this thread.

 

Kikafuwe  for Baganda to enter into any sort of alliance with Langis and Acholis to throw out M7.

 

How many times do you expect Buganda to make the same strategic mistake?

 

Buganda needs to go solo,those who think you have help to offer like my friend Isaac Balamu  you can keep it.

 

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Frank Mujabi <frank.mujabi21@gmail.com> wrote:

Mw Musoke

 

Project Unitary Uganda is doomed, and

Buganda will have to  be in any conversation after M7, and it will not be represented by M7's stooges.

 

The status quo can't continue, and there is no need to make yet more agreements with people who have no interest in what Buganda wants.

 

The reward will be right, and Buganda will again pay the price.

 

Ensi  egula Milambo.

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Nov 2014, at 17:29, Bobby Musoke <bobbymusoke@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Isaac  Balamu,

 

I am always so amused when you non Baganda tell us what is good for Buganda.

How would you know when I was last in Uganda?

Project Unitary Uganda  is one ailing project that we should put an end to.

I am firmly  convinced Buganda should go solo.  

 

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Isaac Balamu <isaacbalamu@hotmail.com> wrote:

Mr Musoke,
I have very busy getting little time to be here.
But back to my point which you are trying to avoid to acknowledge. Buganda needs others and the point I was trying to make to you, if mere building of masilo you ask all of us to contribute then what is this you are taking about going sole. Look Buganda is you and you are free not to recognize others but the majority of  Buganda acknowledges and sees the benefit of togetherness. The reason you have seen what a progressive katikiro has been able to achieve in a short time.
What I tend to observe particularly here in forums is that majority of you guys are twenty years behind where Uganda is. The reason you remain in your shells. Please visit Uganda and stay there for two months you will see.

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From: Bobby Musoke
Sent: 05/11/2014 09:01

To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE

Mr Isaac Balamu,

 

Where have you been hiding all this time?

My response to your question about the Katikiro's fund raising efforts for the masiro is the same one I gave to Mr George Okello sometime back when he raised a similar issue.

 

My response is I do not discuss Buganda issues with non Baganda because I think it is none of your business.

 

I am sure you have enough issues to attend to in Busoga without trying to inject yourself in Buganda affairs.

 

 

Byebyange ssebo. 

 

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Isaac Balamu <isaacbalamu@hotmail.com> wrote:

Bobby Musoke.
Is construction of the masilo an aspiration of the baganda.
How come you have not advised the katikiro to go alone on it and not travel even as far as Arab for funds
Interesting how people can have individual wishes which fail th to see the obvious

Sent from my Windows Phone

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From: Bobby Musoke
Sent: 04/11/2014 13:26

To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE

Mr Moses Ocen,

 

I could not find the thread  where you suggest that no tribe in Uganda can achieve their aspirations without alliances.I am going to focus on the aspirations of Buganda.

 

In my opinion Buganda does not need the help of Luos to achieve its aspirations.The Luos are responsible for a large part of the problems Buganda is going thru and I think it is ridiculous to suggest Buganda makes alliances with people responsible for a lot of its problems.Buganda needs to fly solo on this mission.

 

 

If the Luos need  to make alliances I suggest they try their luck in South Sudan.E Buganda twabakowa dda!

 

 

My two cents worth. 

 

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:07 PM, <ocennekyon@gmail.com> wrote:

Frank;

 

I will reply to your question extensively later, because I have an appointment with a Punching bag at the gym!:-))

 

 

 

Ocen

 

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

From: Frank Mujabi Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 17:02 To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com Reply To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com Cc: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE

 

Ocen

 

It is obvious in Uganda today that M7's dictatorship is manned by Ankole/ Kigezi/ Rwanda and Northerners especially Luo's.

 

What they all have in common is that M7 has accorded them an opportunity 

to occupy and colonise Buganda, something they all want.

 

This is fully noted by those who have

to rectify it.

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Nov 2014, at 23:27, Moses Ocen Nekyon <musanap@gmail.com> wrote:

Pojim;

 

Chaka is trying to forget what he has previously written.

 

 

Ocen

 

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From: 'edward pojim' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 15:24 To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com Reply To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE

 

Chaka;

 

In an attempt to acquit yourself, you present all evidence of haters: Mbu, my best friend is from Lira, so how can I  be a Lango hater! Racists, especially in US, use similar language: my best friend or bodyguard or chef is black, so I can't possibly hate blacks!

 

Also, it's obvious from your question that you do not know the history relationship between Jews and Hitler, or, go deeper, the authors and editors of the Workers Party newspaper and its Manifesto.

 

Pojim

 

 

On Monday, November 3, 2014 12:07 PM, 'chaka Jay' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

Pojim:

I don't hate any Acholi or Langi. To be on record,  have many friends from that region, actually my best buddy in high-school in Wales UK is from Lira. On that point, I consider M7 with absolute contempt. I rememebr I visit Uganda and I passed by Atiak, man the utter canage his goverment did can never be forgiven. I still can not fathom anyone from that region to work with M7 and become a poodle of his.. 

 

Just image "Did the Jews worked with Hitler? Just close your eyes and thing a  second..

 

-Chaka

 

On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:44 PM, 'edward pojim' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

Chaka;

 

I see dangerous anti-Acholi streaks in you and my namesake, Edward Mulindwa.

 

While I do not know your background, Mr. Mulindwa has let us on his intimate association with the Amin regime, to the point that he was present at the scene when Archbishop Luwum and ministers, Erinayo Oryema and Oboth-Ofumbi were assassinated.

 

Mr. Mulindwa recently told us here that it was he who placed the first telephone call to the family of  Minister Oryema, notifying them about his death.

 

So, given such an up-close-and-personal relation with Amin, I would consider Mr. Mulindwa an Amin henchman, and therefore, an avid defender of Idi Amin. It's only logical then, that Mr. Mulindwa would find every reason to attack Amin's detractors, especially those who posed the greatest threat to Amin rule; the Acholis.

 

He does not see, in post-Amin era, any Acholi worth his commendation. I find that to be an obsessive hatred of an entire people, and I condemn it without reservations.

 

And here you are, singling out the deputy Speaker for condemnation, simply because he serves or served under President Museveni, who you call a killer of Acholi/Langi people. I think you would rather Acholi and Lango folks boycott the Museveni regime en masse, turn down every single appointment offered them.

 

If that is your wish, it's thoughtless and juvenile.

 

 

I've said this before and it's worth repeating: no single Ugandan president has been without blame for loss of lives, destruction of property or major corruption.

 

While thousands of Ugandans died during Idi Amin's era, I maintain that Amin did not kill 300,000 people that we keep hearing about; but he did some killings. Same thing with Obote, and Museveni.

 

By the same token, it does not help anyone for Mr. Mulindwa to launch a brazen, callous campaign to  sanitize or deny Amin's atrocities. Or for you to fault Mr. Oulanya for being elected deputy Speaker, simply because Museveni has killed thousands of Acholis.

 

Our history is checkered and bloody; let's be rational when appropriating blames, or seeking out solutions so that we don't repeat it for the next generation.

 

Pojim

 

 

 

 

On Monday, November 3, 2014 9:26 AM, 'chaka Jay' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

Can  anyone list major contributors of Acholis and Langis (MPs, Army officers) bidding M7 rule.... or are M7 poodle

 

One major M7 poodle is the deputy speaker.. It just pullzes me that M7 killed so many Acholis/Langi's, and yet this guys are bidding for his rule..

 

-Chaka

 

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