{UAH} Re: [UNAANET] Response to RUTEHENDA: Update on UNAA's Petition
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"... since the BOD, Council and Executive get their mandate through the current constitution..." Rutehenda Is it an error or is it deliberate for the young man to pretend or Confuse this forum that UNAA has an existing BoT, council and a legal constitution!? Not only is the document illegal but it has been violated and abused to the point that out of the three UNAA organs two are practically dissolved and another is a lame duck. All in courtesy of Brian Kwesiga and his boss Moses Wilson. What will happen if the judge rules in favor of Musokea petition? Of course, that becomes UNAAs victory. Kamugisha
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 6:06 PM CST Rutehenda Ronald rutehendaronald@yahoo.com [UNAANET] wrote:
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>Joseph,
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>Hope you had a nice day. Being a new member does not stop me from thinking and reasoning. I joined UNAA because I saw and still see a great ugandan organisation that brings us together.
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> I think you are confusing me (members), the organisation is running on the constitution you want to be declared illegal, at the same time you are saying you are not trying to "kill" UNAA. Who is going to run the organisation since the BOD, Council and Executive get their mandate through the current constitution.
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>Explain in detail to UNAA members what will happen in case the judge rules in your favor.
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>Why are you more focused on declaring the constitution illegal rather than focus on amending it?
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>I have one article to include,"term limits for council members".
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>What will happen to UNAA after you win is my main concern.
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>Ronald
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>On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 12:09 PM PST Joseph Musoke joseph.musoke@ymail.com [UNAANET] wrote:
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>>Ronald,
>>I meant to write "amused" not "abused". When I am driving, my dictation software sometimes gets confused by background noise and I did not proofread the email before I sent it.
>>As for the constitution, I know that you are new to UNAA so I'll give you facts:
>>
>>1. Moses Wilson asked me if I could join the group that would draft the 2010 constitution and I agreed. But when I mentioned that I didn't belong to any camps (at the time, Moses was the leader of Clear Direction) the UNAA leaders decided to drop me.
>>2. I gave my views when the draft constitution came out and I have been giving my views since 2010.
>>3. I suspected that the constitution might be illegal and I brought up on unaanet but Tim Gaburungyi responded that their lawyer had reviewed the draft and approved it. I didn't look at the laws of Massachusetts until Moses Wilson decided to extend his term on the Board yet it expired in Sept, 2014. That is when I discovered that the whole document was passed in passed in violation of state law and has several unlawful provisions.
>>You falsely claim that I want to have UNAA declared an illegal organisation. You know that that is not true. If you go on like that, I will not respond to your comments.
>>I clearly said that the constitution of 2010 is illegal...and that is a fact. I quoted the relevant laws that I relied on. Your side is going to have their chance to show why you think that I am wrong.
>>thanks
>>
>>---In UNAANET@yahoogroups.com, <rutehendaronald@...> wrote :
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>>Joseph,
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>>Am so very sorry if you read my question as an abuse.
>>
>>You seem to know the laws of the land so well. Why can't you come up with better articles to replace the ones you see in our constitution to the AGM
>>For adoption or rejection.
>>
>>All I see is that since you failed to become the president you would rather have UNAA declared an illegal organisation rather that contributing to its development.
>>
>>Ronald
>>
>>For a faster response please contact me at 415.789.6427
>>sent from Google Nexus 5 on Vodafone's LTE Network!
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Joseph Musoke <joseph.musoke@ymail.com>
>>To: Rutehenda Ronald <rutehendaronald@yahoo.com>; "ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>; Promote your Values <views@unaacauses.org>; "unaanet@yahoogroups.com" <unaanet@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:41 AM
>>Subject: Re: [UNAA View] Update on UNAA's Petition
>>
>>
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>>Ronald, it's electronic filing. You can file anytime. Still, I'm abused by the fact that you're very interested in when I'm filling the petition but you're not bothered by the fact that you and I are UNAA members and we can have this exchange on this forum but we can't do it on UNAA's official discussion group (unaalist) just because Tim Gaburungyi blocks most people like me that point out wrongs in your camp? Thanks
>>
>>
>>For a faster response please contact me at 415.789.6427
>>sent from Google Nexus 5 on Vodafone's LTE Network!
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Rutehenda Ronald <rutehendaronald@yahoo.com>
>>To: Joseph Musoke <joseph.musoke@ymail.com>; "ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>; Promote your Values <views@unaacauses.org>
>>Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 9:01 PM
>>Subject: Re: [UNAA View] Update on UNAA's Petition
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>>SO YOU ARE PLANNING ON GOING TO COURT ON A WEEKEND
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>>On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:08 PM, Joseph Musoke <joseph.musoke@ymail.com> wrote:
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>>On November 4th, 2014, a petition signed by several members of UNAA was delivered to the UNAA Executives. The petition demanded that UNAA leaders have to do before November 18th, 2014:
>>1. UNAA Executives should inform members that the current constitution is illegal because its adoption did not follow state law. In addition, several articles of that 2010 constitution are illegal.
>>2. the UNAA Board of Trustees, the Council and the Election Commission should be disbanded immediately because they were created under an illegal 2010 constitution.
>>3. Timothy Gaburungyi must be removed from control of UNAA's website and UNAA's mailing list. Timothy Gaburungyi has abused his powers and blocked several members from unaalist. e.g he he has never explained to me why he blocks me.
>>4. a special UNAA meeting must be called before December 19th, 2014 to address the above matters.
>>State law provides that a special meeting can be requested by members representing at least 10% of the smallest quorum of members needed for a vote at the annual meeting. Article 4.4 of UNAA's constitution provides that there is NO quorum neded for a vote at the annual meeting. i.e even one UNAA members can vote by himself and bind UNAA. Therefore, one member is enough to call for a special meeting under state law since that would be equal to or greater than the 10% that the law requires for calling special meetings.
>>In case the Executives ignore the petition, we have drafted an application that we will send to a court in Massachusetts requesting the power to call a special meeting.
>>We will basically inform the court that we know that our constitution is illegal and we had requested our leaders to address the above issues but the leaders ignored our petition. We anticipate to go to court on December 20, 2014 and we will post the whole document on this forum.
>>thanks
>>
>>For a faster response please contact me at 415.789.6427
>>sent from Google Nexus 5 on Vodafone's LTE Network!
>>_______________________________________________
>>
>>
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 6:06 PM CST Rutehenda Ronald rutehendaronald@yahoo.com [UNAANET] wrote:
>
>Joseph,
>
>Hope you had a nice day. Being a new member does not stop me from thinking and reasoning. I joined UNAA because I saw and still see a great ugandan organisation that brings us together.
>
> I think you are confusing me (members), the organisation is running on the constitution you want to be declared illegal, at the same time you are saying you are not trying to "kill" UNAA. Who is going to run the organisation since the BOD, Council and Executive get their mandate through the current constitution.
>
>Explain in detail to UNAA members what will happen in case the judge rules in your favor.
>
>Why are you more focused on declaring the constitution illegal rather than focus on amending it?
>
>I have one article to include,"term limits for council members".
>
>What will happen to UNAA after you win is my main concern.
>
>Ronald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 12:09 PM PST Joseph Musoke joseph.musoke@ymail.com [UNAANET] wrote:
>
>>Ronald,
>>I meant to write "amused" not "abused". When I am driving, my dictation software sometimes gets confused by background noise and I did not proofread the email before I sent it.
>>As for the constitution, I know that you are new to UNAA so I'll give you facts:
>>
>>1. Moses Wilson asked me if I could join the group that would draft the 2010 constitution and I agreed. But when I mentioned that I didn't belong to any camps (at the time, Moses was the leader of Clear Direction) the UNAA leaders decided to drop me.
>>2. I gave my views when the draft constitution came out and I have been giving my views since 2010.
>>3. I suspected that the constitution might be illegal and I brought up on unaanet but Tim Gaburungyi responded that their lawyer had reviewed the draft and approved it. I didn't look at the laws of Massachusetts until Moses Wilson decided to extend his term on the Board yet it expired in Sept, 2014. That is when I discovered that the whole document was passed in passed in violation of state law and has several unlawful provisions.
>>You falsely claim that I want to have UNAA declared an illegal organisation. You know that that is not true. If you go on like that, I will not respond to your comments.
>>I clearly said that the constitution of 2010 is illegal...and that is a fact. I quoted the relevant laws that I relied on. Your side is going to have their chance to show why you think that I am wrong.
>>thanks
>>
>>---In UNAANET@yahoogroups.com, <rutehendaronald@...> wrote :
>>
>>
>>Joseph,
>>
>>Am so very sorry if you read my question as an abuse.
>>
>>You seem to know the laws of the land so well. Why can't you come up with better articles to replace the ones you see in our constitution to the AGM
>>For adoption or rejection.
>>
>>All I see is that since you failed to become the president you would rather have UNAA declared an illegal organisation rather that contributing to its development.
>>
>>Ronald
>>
>>For a faster response please contact me at 415.789.6427
>>sent from Google Nexus 5 on Vodafone's LTE Network!
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Joseph Musoke <joseph.musoke@ymail.com>
>>To: Rutehenda Ronald <rutehendaronald@yahoo.com>; "ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>; Promote your Values <views@unaacauses.org>; "unaanet@yahoogroups.com" <unaanet@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:41 AM
>>Subject: Re: [UNAA View] Update on UNAA's Petition
>>
>>
>>
>>Ronald, it's electronic filing. You can file anytime. Still, I'm abused by the fact that you're very interested in when I'm filling the petition but you're not bothered by the fact that you and I are UNAA members and we can have this exchange on this forum but we can't do it on UNAA's official discussion group (unaalist) just because Tim Gaburungyi blocks most people like me that point out wrongs in your camp? Thanks
>>
>>
>>For a faster response please contact me at 415.789.6427
>>sent from Google Nexus 5 on Vodafone's LTE Network!
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Rutehenda Ronald <rutehendaronald@yahoo.com>
>>To: Joseph Musoke <joseph.musoke@ymail.com>; "ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>; Promote your Values <views@unaacauses.org>
>>Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 9:01 PM
>>Subject: Re: [UNAA View] Update on UNAA's Petition
>>
>>
>>
>>SO YOU ARE PLANNING ON GOING TO COURT ON A WEEKEND
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Friday, November 7, 2014 9:08 PM, Joseph Musoke <joseph.musoke@ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>On November 4th, 2014, a petition signed by several members of UNAA was delivered to the UNAA Executives. The petition demanded that UNAA leaders have to do before November 18th, 2014:
>>1. UNAA Executives should inform members that the current constitution is illegal because its adoption did not follow state law. In addition, several articles of that 2010 constitution are illegal.
>>2. the UNAA Board of Trustees, the Council and the Election Commission should be disbanded immediately because they were created under an illegal 2010 constitution.
>>3. Timothy Gaburungyi must be removed from control of UNAA's website and UNAA's mailing list. Timothy Gaburungyi has abused his powers and blocked several members from unaalist. e.g he he has never explained to me why he blocks me.
>>4. a special UNAA meeting must be called before December 19th, 2014 to address the above matters.
>>State law provides that a special meeting can be requested by members representing at least 10% of the smallest quorum of members needed for a vote at the annual meeting. Article 4.4 of UNAA's constitution provides that there is NO quorum neded for a vote at the annual meeting. i.e even one UNAA members can vote by himself and bind UNAA. Therefore, one member is enough to call for a special meeting under state law since that would be equal to or greater than the 10% that the law requires for calling special meetings.
>>In case the Executives ignore the petition, we have drafted an application that we will send to a court in Massachusetts requesting the power to call a special meeting.
>>We will basically inform the court that we know that our constitution is illegal and we had requested our leaders to address the above issues but the leaders ignored our petition. We anticipate to go to court on December 20, 2014 and we will post the whole document on this forum.
>>thanks
>>
>>For a faster response please contact me at 415.789.6427
>>sent from Google Nexus 5 on Vodafone's LTE Network!
>>_______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>Uganda Festival 2015 New York by UNAA Causes is On.
>>
>>Festival Registration in Progress:
>>unaacauses.org/Register_new.html
>>
>>$179 - Adult Registration:
>>unaacauses.org/Register_new.html
>>
>>$149 - Student Registration:
>>unaacauses.org/Register_new.html
>>
>>$139- Youth Registration:
>>unaacauses.org/Register_new.html
>>
>>
>>
>>Subscribe | Unsubscribe:
>>http://unaacauses.org/mailman/listinfo/views_unaacauses.org
>>
>>
>>UNAA Causes 5051 E. Orangethorpe Ave, Suite E195, Anaheim, CA, 92807, USA +1 855 326 3566
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