SV: {UAH} Joseph Ochieno: This day in history.......

Akim,

I love winter. In fact, I almost love it more that the hot equatorial weather. A month is enough for me. But of course I would eventually adopt if I were to relocate to Africa.

We have been longing for real winter snow for long. It was awkward X-mas without snow. Unfortunately, the Goddess of weather appears determined to deprive us of the winter thrills this year also.

It is soon springs and we have only had a couple of days snow, usch!!

Just returned from Norge where we enjoyed the weekend.

Oh, Newcastle weather does not differ so much from ours, does it?

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den måndag, 29 januari 2018 4:47 skrev Akim odong <federalakim@gmail.com>:

Allan;

Its even cooler where Noc is penning from. Culturally, an alien weather for the geeezer!

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Allan <barigye.rugos@gmail.com> wrote:

Noc. It's winter.

On Jan 27, 2018 4:39 PM, "reggaelucjion soulafunk" <reggaelucjion.soulafunk@ gmail.com> wrote:

AKIM,

HOW IS THE GOING, REALLY?!

RECALL THIS: "...Noc;

One of the benefit out of the federal system will be the preservation of culture. We need to keep our culture rather than adopt other peoples culture and language like you have done, hook, line and lanyata..." ????

AND:

"..... I have advised on many occasion that looking back is a distraction if not some comfort relief. The way forward is always ahead. That is why we federalist are looking to the future rather than anecdotes from unrecoverable moments or years gone by. We cannot live our lives in the past but in the moment . So quit wasting yours and others time, ruminating on subjects that will yield very little if any!..." 

2018-01-27 7:14 GMT+01:00 Akim odong <federalakim@gmail.com>:

Billy and Ochieno;

I have advised on many occasion that looking back is a distraction if not some comfort relief. The way forward is always ahead. That is why we federalist are looking to the future rather than anecdotes from unrecoverable moments or years gone by. We cannot live our lives in the past but in the moment . So quit wasting yours and others time, ruminating on subjects that will yield very little if any!

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Billie Kadameri <kadameri@hotmail.com> wrote:

Joseph, perhaps you should read the interview below of Oyite Ojok by Jeremy Paxman in 1981 to appreciate why those 'bandits' where liked by people in central Uganda. Please go to BBC archives and ask for the full BBC Panorama Programme: From Tyranny to Disaster.

One interview segment you might find enlightening is with President Obote himself.

Paxman: Local people are reported cases of dead bodies of civilians with gunshot wounds found in forests in Jinja road on a daily basis. They actually these are all murdered by government troops, your soldiers. This must concern you as President mustn't it?

Obote: People have indeed been killed or are being killed and we have arrested some people doing this but many are people who are not real soldiers but have weapons or people who even left the army long ago. But I see it as an improvement because the mere fact that the bodies are found is different from Amin's time when bodies were never found. I consider that a improvement from a more tragic past!....

FROM THE PAST[BBC Panorama Programme (1981) : From Tyranny to Disaster (By Jeremy Paxman)- OYITE OJOK

Sep 6, 14 3:17 PM

Author ugandansatheart(UAH) Categories History, Human Rights, Obote and UPC

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OYITE OJOK

Oyite Ojok: There are a few bandits who are giving us well…a bit of a difficult time.
Paxman: Surely Brigadier, if these were just a few bandits why would you have have road blocks all over the place?
Oyite Ojok: I told you before, that there are bandits robbing guns, with guns!…robbing people with guns!
Paxman: We saw a soldier robbing a civilian's bicycle and another robbing money from a woman. Now this may be an isolated cases but there are complaints everywhere of soldiers not only robbing people but killing some and this reflects badly on the image of the army, does it not?

Oyite Ojok: That depends how you want to put it…depends how you want to put it. If your business is going around looking for which soldier is robbing whose bicycle, may be you will find a soldier robbing a train!.

Paxman: But these are issues that should concern you.
Oyite Ojok: Sure! You show me which soldier is doing whatever wrong thing and I will take a severe disciplinary action against that soldier.
Paxman: Have you actually taken such actions?
Oyite Ojok: Absolutely. The jail is full up!.
Paxman: Of Uganda soldiers who have killed civilians?
Oyite Ojok: A few soldiers who have misbehaved.

END

Billie O'Kadameri
UAH member in Paris.

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From: 'joseph ochieno' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 9:19 AM
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Subject: {UAH} This day in history.......

 

This day in history....

32 years ago today about now....a trail of little boys (many hardly 9 or possibly emaciated 12 year olds), all armed - dragging guns possibly taller than them (check my facebook page background pic)- poured across Makerere university; they were obviously with their commanders (much older) and weather beaten. These were NRA's bandits emerging from Luwero bushes where they had left a trail of blood, skulls and ghosts but now, on their way to the final 'BALLOT BOX' that delivered Museveni to power.

On December 10th, 1980, the people of Nyabushoozi (as indeed the rest of Uganda) had roundly rejected mbu, 'Uganda Patriotic Movement' (UPM), the political party and candidate Museveni. Except for one seat in Tooro won by former DP Crispus Kiyonga, UPM obtained 0.8% of the polls and instead of heading to the Courts (if they had any electoral petitions worthy of mention), they strolled all the way from Mbarara North to Kabamba from where they started their massacre, claiming elections had been 'rigged' in favour of UPC which had convincingly won over 61% of the votes. In which constituencies Kagame, Bunyenyezi, Baingana or Rwigyema stood, that's for you young historians and 'cadre' professors.

Largely defeated, on the run and (Museveni having sought asylum in Sweden), a life-line had been granted when in collaboration with DP and through the go rmless Okellos, they had managed to form a league to overthrow the UPC government 6 months earlier and, 5 months to the next elections. With DP, they were scared : an election in December 1985 would see an even increased majority for UPC, a cabinet reshuffle and reforms -including within security forces - that would have nailed their hopes possibly for ever. From July 27th 1985, Museveni had dragged his DP and Okello partners with conditions including a resource-wasting expedition to Nairobi in the guise of 'peace talks' (aptly referred, Nairobi Peace Jokes). How certain Ugandans allowed themselves to be duped this far....is a subject of my book tomorrow. He had used this time to rebuild, regroup, gather free resources and, expose the naivety of DP and the gormless Okellos. Above all, with the help of their imperialist bosses and Pike media, the various militias operating after the coup had been exposed as 'terrible' except 'disciplined' NRA. Ask Andrew Kayiira (RIP).

Having broken into State House and now a permanent squatter who no longer even knows his age, Museveni - whose grandfather's names I forget - is today showing off his trophies at - of all places Arua in West Nile, a region that should historians ever establish the facts of the military units that first entered Amin's home town after 1979.....I will only say 'no comment'. Worse, those going will pass through Tororo where some NRA victims were buried while still breathing, Mukura where hundreds were boiled alive in railway wagons, greater Teso whose cattle were rustled South into Kampala, Lango some of whose citizens still live in concentration camps and in Acholi - an area in which genocide was perfected - and now documented (watch A Brilliant Genocide by Australian journalist and activist, Ebony Atlanta Butler).

The man and gang that wrought havoc on a nation and peoples that had just survived Amin' regime of terror, claiming 'election rigging and fighting for democracy' now stands 'tall' in the world, claiming Donald Trump as his icon, having amended his own 'constitution' to allow him rule for life (for himself and grandchildren) and with zombie like followers in the names of legislators, boldly pushed for a 7 year term parliament. Sane Ugandans, where are you?

This is a sad day, I mourn for the dead, stunted and regressed. Except, I believe too, that this country is possible - if ONLY you believe in better.

Ochieno

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