Fwd: {UAH} QUOTE OF QUOTES: John L wishes Tony Owana a merry season

Robert Atuhairwe

No. She was never my girl-friend. As Chairman, I had access to the visitors rooms- I think we  had two- so I kept the girl there for a week until I could send her back to some secondary school in Masaka and I never saw her again, nor Joseph  Kiggundu.. That is the reason I was so keen to meet Kiggundu because I wanted to get an explanation.But as Owana informed me, the man died in 1992.  But she was not the only girl I gave shelter within the compounds of Livingstone Hall. I also allowed a Rwandan student to keep his sister in the Hall, they were both refugees and the sister, who was attending secondary school in Kampala, had nowhere to live. Most controversially, I allowed some two female military cadets to stay in the visitors room for about a week as well. The students got shocked, seeing women dressed in military fatigues walking up and down the lawns of Livingstone. they were good fun, although I got upset when some of the DP students started to claim I had "armed guards" in the hall. But they were just visitors, just like all other visitors that we sometimes accomodated for short durations.

 

I don't have a child with a Ugandan woman therefore as I have never had a Ugandan girl-friend. My daghters are from Filipino and Nigerian mothers. My daughter is being sanctioned at school for being  "disruptive". I am trying to ensure she does not follow in my footsteps because I got suspended or expelled in almost every school I attended, including the Law Development Centre.

 

I think one of the reasons I have not returned much to Uganda, apart from the political ones, is that I do not have very strong sentimental personal attachments there as most of my family live outside Uganda, a majority here in the UK. If I had left a girlfriend or a child by the time I was forced out of Uganda in  1989, then I might have been obliged for sentimental or filial reasons to return. But now that my last daughter will enter University this year, I will have less parental duties and more time to spend on Ugandan issues.

 

All of the people  Tony Owana writes about were close to me, or at least I knew them at a political level and had constant battles with, especially John Kakooza of the Makererean. I was also aware of their associations with bandit elements- this is what Tony Owana chooses to camouflage as "harrassment" by the UPC government. But I will respond to him later.

 

George Okello

 

 

 

On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Robert Atuhairwe <007aronda@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh really, George? What a lucky left-over girl! Did she 'graduate' to
become the begetter of the wonderful daughter now in question?

On 1/4/14, George Okello <opallog@gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert Atuhairwe,
>
> I will write to Tony Owana later. I have a troublesome daughter now. A
> father's burden.
>
> But I was sad to hear about the death of Joseph Kiggundu. I really wanted
> to meet the guy again. The last time we met was in Livingstone Hall. He
> came to my room with two girls- I had loads of drinks in those days- most I
> got from the Cuban Embassy. Kiguundu went with one girl back to his room
> and completely forgot he had left one in my room. When I went searching for
> him, he had disappeared because the Intelligence people were looking for
> him The girl was left stranded with me for almost a week, she was not a
> campus girl.
>
> Strange!!!
>
> George Okello
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Robert Atuhairwe
> <007aronda@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I am  hoping you revered gentlemen are saying nothing other than the
>> viable truth. And George, whenever the term 'encyclopaedia' is applied
>> to Tony, it's not just an endearment.
>>
>> On 12/31/13, Tony Owana <owanatone@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > George,
>> >
>> > Don't promise to send anything. Just send it and I pray it be
>> > authentic,
>> > not like Dr' Okungu's testimony in which he claimed to have been
>> > interrogated by a crocodile holding the UPDF rank of captain and a puff
>> > adder lieutenant at CMI!
>> >
>> > Joseph Kiggundu who was editor in chief of THE CITIZEN newspaper of the
>> DP
>> > died of meningitis at Mengo Hospital on 22 January 1992.
>> > That 'short Muganda guy' you found so disagreeable graduated as a
>> > lawyer,
>> > despite all the brutalities inflicted on him by the UPC regime. That is
>> why
>> > you describe him as "borderline bandit...often of interest to the
>> > police
>> or
>> > to the intelligence services".
>> >
>> > You say you knew all these simply because you were chairman of
>> Livingstone
>> > Hall? Was Opiyo Oloya, Ebil Otto and other non-UPC student leaders who
>> fled
>> > Uganda at the time also borderline bandits? Do you remember Peter
>> > Wagima
>> of
>> > the white Land Rover bedecked with UPC colours? I have more and I am
>> > not
>> > just promising but stating...
>> >
>> > When your government agents finally got Kiggundu in Tororo, they
>> force-fed
>> > him on faeces in Rubongi barracks. The heel of his right foot was
>> > permanently disfigured. He eventually made his way to safety in Kenya.
>> > If
>> > you know Andrew Mulindwa, once of THE CITIZEN, who is currently in
>> Canada I
>> > think, he will also tell you why he left his beloved Uganda...
>> >
>> > No John Kazoora ever worked at THE CITIZEN. I think you meant John
>> Baptist
>> > Kakooza, another lawyer who distinguished himself as Editor of THE
>> > MAKEREREAN, the university newspaper. He also distinguished himself in
>> > being harassed by the UPC regime. He was not and is not  Rwandan but a
>> > Munyarwanda of Kalungu County in Buddu.
>> >
>> > Want more on Kakooza? He was boss at NSSF for a stint and is now in
>> private
>> > practice in addition to contributing to nation-building by criticising
>> the
>> > NRM government in its own THE NEW VISION every Sunday. You know UGANDA
>> > TIMES or THE PEOPLE during UPC would not have tolerated that nonsense!
>> >
>> > But I understand why THE CITIZEN was to you a yellow rag. Its accurate
>> > monthly accounts of innocent people massacred as the benevolent
>> government
>> > army hunted for Museveni's bandits could not have endeared it to you.
>> > Indeed, CITIZEN editor in chief Tony Sekweyama and John Baptist Kyeyune
>> > (RIP) were almost always in Luzira Prison. Sekweyama had even decided
>> never
>> > to get married because of regular detention...
>> >
>> > Have you got more of where "my thinking' comes from?
>> >
>> > Happy 2014!
>> >
>> > OWANA
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM, George Okello <opallog@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tony Owana,
>> >>
>> >> I will send you reports and even video recorded testimonies. There are
>> >> plenty of them. You claim you worked for the DP's Citizen yellow rag-
>> now
>> >> I
>> >> begin to see where you are coming from in much of your thinking. Did
>> >> you
>> >> happen to know Joseph Kiggundu, the short muganda guy, who used to
>> >> work
>> >> for
>> >> the Citizen as well? A very disagreeable character he was, but he was
>> >> my
>> >> friend. Or John Kazoora- the Rwandan guy? They were my classmates and
>> >> they
>> >> both worked for the Citizen while at Makerere University. Joseph
>> Kiggundu
>> >> was a borderline "bandit" at the time, I remember he was often of
>> >> interest
>> >> to the police or to the intelligence services, I knew all these
>> >> because
>> I
>> >> was Chairman of Livingstone Hall and I knew everything that happened
>> >> in
>> >> the
>> >> Hall. Kiggundu was one of my subjects. I don't think he even sat his
>> >> final
>> >> exams, towards the end, I think he was on the run.
>> >>
>> >> George Okello
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Tony Owana <owanatone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> George,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am sorry for what happened to you, which your cell-mate must
>> certainly
>> >>> verify as he was there with you.
>> >>>
>> >>> You are right! I did not see these NRA HOMOSEXUAL SODOMY stories run
>> >>> by
>> >>> our media; not even the Democratic Party's CITIZEN/MUNNANSI which I
>> >>> served
>> >>> for sometime.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kindly assist me with a copy of the Amnesty International and MSF
>> >>> reports
>> >>> detailing these barbarities by my gestapo militiamen as you describe
>> >>> them.
>> >>> And if it is not too much to ask, what charges were you framed with
>> >>> to
>> >>> get
>> >>> incarcerated in Lubiri?
>> >>>
>> >>> Two years ago, a famous UAH writer wrote about a Major Kiwanuka who
>> >>> was
>> >>> shot dead by his kadogo escorts. I dug up data on all the major
>> >>> Kiwanukas
>> >>> of UPDF and none had been killed by his kadogo escorts. Indeed there
>> >>> were
>> >>> no kadogo escorts anywhere in the UPDF at the time this juicy story
>> came
>> >>> up
>> >>> on UAH. Our writer ended the probe by insulting me!!!!!!!!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> I am NRM and anti-barbarity, but if you don't believe this possible,
>> >>> just
>> >>> send me the information I have requested above.
>> >>>
>> >>> OWANA
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM, George Okello <opallog@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Tony Owana,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Were you asking about the homosexual law recently passed by the
>> >>>> rubber
>> >>>> stamp parliament?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I think it is members of your militia army who should be aghast at
>> >>>> the passing of this law since many of them are reputedly homosexual.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  One of the most egregious crimes they committed in northern Uganda
>> >>>> during the period of the extermination camps was the violent
>> >>>> homosexual sodomy of men. In a research carried out by Amnesty
>> >>>> International and Medicines San Frontiere, many men became victims
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> this dastardly crime. The modus operandi often consisted of forcing
>> >>>> the unfortunate victims to bend over backwards, holding their toes
>> >>>> or
>> >>>> a short table or tree stump  thereby exposing their bums which would
>> >>>> then be violently penetrated and subjected to repeated thrusts
>> >>>> causing
>> >>>> extensive internal injuries, and no doubt excruciating pain and
>> >>>> bleeding. These acts of gratuitous brutality often seemed to give
>> >>>> immense pleasure to your gestapo militiamen. When later subjected to
>> >>>> medical examination, a majority of these victims had damaged rectums
>> >>>> and persistent sores and found it very painful and ardous to
>> >>>> defecate.
>> >>>> Some could not sit down because of the damage caused to their
>> >>>> backsides.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I wonder whether your news outlets carried out any of the stories of
>> >>>> these victims, some of whom ahve since committed suicide or
>> >>>> contracted
>> >>>> HIV/AIDS. None have been compensated for their suffering and ordeal
>> >>>> at
>> >>>> the hands of your gestapo militia.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> By the way Tony Owana, somebody today recognised me from the time I
>> >>>> was locked up in Lubiri barracks. He was my cell-mate. He confirms
>> >>>> what I have been narrating here all along- how badly beaten up I was
>> >>>> by your  gestapo militia.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> George Okello
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 12/29/13, Tony Owana <owanatone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > From the most recent by John L, the observation by Richard and the
>> >>>> remarks
>> >>>> > by other Hon UAH MPs, Owana rests his case.
>> >>>> > Merry Xmas 2014 by the way!
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Robert Atuhairwe
>> >>>> > <007aronda@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> Just one untruths, please?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On 12/25/13, Rajab Ali <raj62ali@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> > Richard! Watch your step, brother; it's politics on the other
>> side
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> >> > the
>> >>>> >> > divide.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > On 25 Dec 2013, at 02:47, Richard mukasa <mukasari48@yahoo.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> __________________
>> >>>> >> >> <<Tony, the problem with this forum is that the intelligent
>> >>>> >> >> people
>> >>>> are
>> >>>> >> >> full of doubts while the simpletons are obtuse and
>> >>>> >> >> overconfident>>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> On Monday, December 23, 2013 9:51 AM, Robert Atuhairwe
>> >>>> >> >> <007aronda@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> Fireworks is anticipated in the wake of a yuletide attack on
>> >>>> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> legendary encyclopaedia by an unknown activist by the name of
>> >>>> >> >> John
>> >>>> L
>> >>>> >> >> who, however, delivered his ire mischievously enough to be
>> >>>> >> >> entertaining as below:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> "....How does your wife and children feel when they read what
>> you
>> >>>> >> >> write and knowing that most of it is a lie just to help bring
>> >>>> bread on
>> >>>> >> >> the table......."
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> It will add immense credit to John L if he reminded the
>> >>>> >> >> audience
>> >>>> >> >> of
>> >>>> >> >> just one lie spewed by his quarry, then we see how to shame
>> >>>> >> >> the
>> >>>> devil
>> >>>> >> >> and bedeck the saint.
>> >>>> >> >> --
>> >>>> >> >> "TRY TO GROW UP!"
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> "TRY TO GROW UP!"
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> "TRY TO GROW UP!"
>>
>


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