{UAH} Ugandan maid in Kuwait sentenced 5 years for baby outside wedlock
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There is no reason Uganda government should involve its self into his issue. And let me be very clear before I am jumped on here. There are very many countries out there as there are so many laws out there. We go into them and we respect all their laws. The only question we need to ask our salves is basic, did she understand this law when she moved into the country? The moment the answer is yes then the responsibility belongs to her to respect that law. And we have got so many Ugandans in Chin as an example on death sentence and some have actually been hacked. But you go to China when you know that you are not allowed to take drugs in or you will get hacked. Why is it a job of Uganda government to save you after you break a law you knew it exists? Now should a woman be jailed for dropping her pants to some goof outside marriage? The answer is no she should not be, but trust me there are countries with wacko punishments for crimes, and we cannot set those laws for they are not international, what we do is to see laws we hate and we refuse to go into those countries. I am a Canadian living in Canada under its law, but trust me our neighbor, United States is still a primitive and uncivilized country that it kills people when they are guilty of murder. Do you know how I save myself from that uncivilized law? Well when I go inside United States I do not murder Americans. Or I refuse to entirely fly into the states. It is very illogical for me to go to United States and murder any one, hopping for The Canadian government to take me off the death sentence. Those that live in Ottawa have two jurisdictions, Ontario on one side and Quebec on the other, if you drive in Ontario you can turn left on a red light but you cannot do it in Quebec. When I drive in Ottawa I make sure I know what side of the city I am on, or I will get a ticket on doing what is not illegal in Ontario and usually the difference between these two provinces is a river. I cannot turn left on a Quebec traffic light pleading that Ontario will save me, I get a Quebec ticket and I pay it with points too.
Fatima Nambi you dropped the God damn pants serve the time.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
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Subject: {UAH} Ugandan maid in Kuwait sentenced 5 years for baby outside wedlock
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Maid in Kuwait sentenced 5 years for baby outside wedlock Share Dec 22 2015
Yasin Kakande
Yasin Kakande is the author of the new book "Slave States: The Practice of Kafala in the Gulf Arab Region."
A Ugandan maid recently jailed for having a baby outside wedlock received a five year prison sentence on Monday. She will be deported after serving her sentence.
Fatuma Nambi, 32, has been held at Sulaibiya Central Jail since she delivered a baby at her sponsor's home in September.
According to Bashir Ali Nsubuga, a Ugandan Community leader in Kuwait who has been following the case, Fatuma's fate came after a few hearings in which she did not have any legal representation. Facing the judge on her own, Fatuma denied the adultery charges.
"The court provided a translator who always asked her whether she consented to the crime or not and whenever she said "no" she was dismissed to wait for another hearing, until the verdict was finally given," he said.
"What is important at this time is for the Ugandan government to intervene and save Fatuma, we can't start apportioning blame as we do not even understand the circumstances regarding her conception, it could have been as a result of sexual assault as it is common for maids in Arab homes, complete isolation renders them vulnerable," said Bashir.
"For the government of Uganda failing to provide legal services to its migrants arrested in these Gulf Arab countries is unacceptable. Why should it sign deals of sending millions of maids to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait when it cannot even accord them legal services?"
Housemaid's pregnancies are relatively common but, far from population projections of maids' as deviants and temptresses, many are the result of sexual assault. Housemaids often terminate pregnancies through risky means or give birth without medical assistance. The outcome can be tragic for both mother and baby; some women are so fearful of the legal repercussions, they abandon or kill their infant children.
Norah Namatovu, Fatuma's 70 year-old the mother, was inconsolable on hearing the news of her daughter's sentence. Moses Muwalampya, Fatuma's elder brother, said "We are now worried about Fatuma's fate and also the condition of our mother, she has been very weak recently and her health is not good," he said.
Namatovu had earlier told Migrants-Rights.org that her daughter had called on an anonymous number and told her that her phone had been confiscated, that she was in big trouble and needed prayers. She later learnt that her daughter had given birth and was arrested. Fatuma left two children with her in Uganda and always sent monthly upkeep, including school fees, from Kuwait.
"I don't even know where to start from; I have never been to Kuwait. It is hard to know that your child is in prison and you cannot do much about it," said Ms Namatovu.
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There is no reason Uganda government should involve its self into his issue. And let me be very clear before I am jumped on here. There are very many countries out there as there are so many laws out there. We go into them and we respect all their laws. The only question we need to ask our salves is basic, did she understand this law when she moved into the country? The moment the answer is yes then the responsibility belongs to her to respect that law. And we have got so many Ugandans in Chin as an example on death sentence and some have actually been hacked. But you go to China when you know that you are not allowed to take drugs in or you will get hacked. Why is it a job of Uganda government to save you after you break a law you knew it exists? Now should a woman be jailed for dropping her pants to some goof outside marriage? The answer is no she should not be, but trust me there are countries with wacko punishments for crimes, and we cannot set those laws for they are not international, what we do is to see laws we hate and we refuse to go into those countries. I am a Canadian living in Canada under its law, but trust me our neighbor, United States is still a primitive and uncivilized country that it kills people when they are guilty of murder. Do you know how I save myself from that uncivilized law? Well when I go inside United States I do not murder Americans. Or I refuse to entirely fly into the states. It is very illogical for me to go to United States and murder any one, hopping for The Canadian government to take me off the death sentence. Those that live in Ottawa have two jurisdictions, Ontario on one side and Quebec on the other, if you drive in Ontario you can turn left on a red light but you cannot do it in Quebec. When I drive in Ottawa I make sure I know what side of the city I am on, or I will get a ticket on doing what is not illegal in Ontario and usually the difference between these two provinces is a river. I cannot turn left on a Quebec traffic light pleading that Ontario will save me, I get a Quebec ticket and I pay it with points too.
Fatima Nambi you dropped the God damn pants serve the time.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko"
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Subject: {UAH} Ugandan maid in Kuwait sentenced 5 years for baby outside wedlock
http://www.migrant-rights.org/2015/12/maid-in-kuwait-sentenced-5-years-for-baby-outside-wedlock/
Maid in Kuwait sentenced 5 years for baby outside wedlock Share Dec 22 2015
Yasin Kakande
Yasin Kakande is the author of the new book "Slave States: The Practice of Kafala in the Gulf Arab Region."
A Ugandan maid recently jailed for having a baby outside wedlock received a five year prison sentence on Monday. She will be deported after serving her sentence.
Fatuma Nambi, 32, has been held at Sulaibiya Central Jail since she delivered a baby at her sponsor's home in September.
According to Bashir Ali Nsubuga, a Ugandan Community leader in Kuwait who has been following the case, Fatuma's fate came after a few hearings in which she did not have any legal representation. Facing the judge on her own, Fatuma denied the adultery charges.
"The court provided a translator who always asked her whether she consented to the crime or not and whenever she said "no" she was dismissed to wait for another hearing, until the verdict was finally given," he said.
"What is important at this time is for the Ugandan government to intervene and save Fatuma, we can't start apportioning blame as we do not even understand the circumstances regarding her conception, it could have been as a result of sexual assault as it is common for maids in Arab homes, complete isolation renders them vulnerable," said Bashir.
"For the government of Uganda failing to provide legal services to its migrants arrested in these Gulf Arab countries is unacceptable. Why should it sign deals of sending millions of maids to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait when it cannot even accord them legal services?"
Housemaid's pregnancies are relatively common but, far from population projections of maids' as deviants and temptresses, many are the result of sexual assault. Housemaids often terminate pregnancies through risky means or give birth without medical assistance. The outcome can be tragic for both mother and baby; some women are so fearful of the legal repercussions, they abandon or kill their infant children.
Norah Namatovu, Fatuma's 70 year-old the mother, was inconsolable on hearing the news of her daughter's sentence. Moses Muwalampya, Fatuma's elder brother, said "We are now worried about Fatuma's fate and also the condition of our mother, she has been very weak recently and her health is not good," he said.
Namatovu had earlier told Migrants-Rights.org that her daughter had called on an anonymous number and told her that her phone had been confiscated, that she was in big trouble and needed prayers. She later learnt that her daughter had given birth and was arrested. Fatuma left two children with her in Uganda and always sent monthly upkeep, including school fees, from Kuwait.
"I don't even know where to start from; I have never been to Kuwait. It is hard to know that your child is in prison and you cannot do much about it," said Ms Namatovu.
Posted In Domestic Workers, GCC, Kuwait, Legal cases, News & Events
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