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SV: SV: SV: SV: {UAH} ALERT!!!!!!!!

GOOK, Allan is a noble man. Well, I am aware you never liked Col Walter Ochora-Odoch(RIP) for reasons best known to you. To Acoli, he  was an extremely popular and liked person who Went well in many circles including those of his political adversaries.

You see, that too, makes a difference: for some liberal-minded people, a friendship, relationship is not shunt merely on basis of political affliations or other interests / convictions.

Imagine if Allan should hate all religious Ugandan merely because of their faith?

I specifically took up that example to revitalise our memo of what Went down then in order to illustrate the analogue with prevalent political reality in Acoli. The outcome of the concluded elections have landed us in pretty much the same situation as then. And if that makes you any happier, WITH PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ACTORS minus those that have passed  on. The same situation; the same actors now like then!!!

Even this time, the President can still nominate the same ministers just like during Ochora and Mao's era in office.

That is why I brought in Ochora (RIP) in the analogue to ILLUSTRATE the empirical option.  Are we in tune there now..., may be?!

They have been around for all this while and yet not accomlish a thing by way of legislating infavour of their own priority issues. That my mate, is a MOCKERY OF THE HIGHER DIMENSION THAT ONLY DONALD TRUMP deciphers neater.

I know you like teasing for the sake. The other time, it was my father who master minded the coup. Then it was the DP who did it. Then it was Olara Otunu who masterminded it. Today , it was Walter Ochora....ehe ehe ehe , you also, which is which?!?!?!?!?
Noc'la gaumoy
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"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den fredag, 26 februari 2016 18:33 skrev Gook <grakanga@gmail.com>:


Allan,
Forget Noc! He is now speaking in tongues!
Even worse he brings in Walter Ochola the late ( May Satan bless his soul !) !
This is the man who prided himself as the " chief planner" of the 1985 coup!

He went on to preside over the " enslavement " of his own people. Millions were camped in sordid and squalid makeshift camps!
Meanwhile what did he do..? He made money eat himself to death!

That is the kind or person Noc is not ashamed to call a friend. And all because he and Walter had a mutual friend... The president! 


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"What you are we once were, what we are   you shall be!"
An inscription on the walls of a Roman catacomb.

On 26 feb 2016, at 17:21, Allan <barigye.rugos@gmail.com> wrote:

Noc.
Are you considering the 30 less the war to achieve this? Which war could have been avoided?
On Feb 26, 2016 10:41 AM, "'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:
SIMON,
Science tells us that matter is neither created nor destroyed. As you know most of the products of science that we enjoy today were not the idea of one man but most were ´successively built on. Some things can be initially wrong but successively turn out right ( the inverse is equally true). Now that we have better basic transport infrastructures and better power supply some others can build on.

Gulu has always been like this. It is not a new situation. Remember Hon Mao was boss when my own buddy Walter Ochora-Odoch (RIP) "CHIEF". And, they found ways to coopt?

People like me who are not into party politics look at / for opportunity or possibility. Forget election campaign lobbying and rhetorics. Some of them are just parts of what goes. 

The President of Uganda is President  Yoweri Museveni! As far I am concerned, it is " ball..., game.., set...and match. Match over like in tennis and other sports. Now we jubiliate and congratulate both the victors and the opposing team and look forward for a better match next time.
The teams now resort to their camps and analyse and  work out newer match strategies.

As said, ball, game, set and match!!

I don't know about elections were rigged or who rigged most or more than the others..., this is Africa: THEY ALL DON'T RIGG AND THEY ALL RIGG, depending. They get beaten at their own games, so to say:

A better way forward along the route to democracy is to continue developing anti rigging culture which naturally is going to take many centuries beginning with constructive dialogue and responsive parliamentary work ( WHICH THEY DID NOT DO SATISFACTORILY to ensure constitutional and law amendments before the elections ( this past mandate).
Noc'la gaumoy
 
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den fredag, 26 februari 2016 14:17 skrev 'Simon Okurut' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>:


Nockrach,

By coincidence I had wanted to remind you of your prediction of Gulu district elections outcome; thanks comrade Gook raised it. Gook is always ahead of me; while I was sleeping the guy was crawling at night to write this (he once said that he used to crawl at night with Mulindwa in some streets).

With elections, you can never be sure until results come out. See the shock that former President Yoweri Museveni has received? He was assured by con men and supporters that he was very popular and that NRMO would sweep the entire country. However, as the entire would has witnessed, that was not the truth; instead the EC has had to do and continues to do an unethical thing, denying the President-elect, Dr. Kizza Besigye and FDC the mandate to answer people's call by declaring fake results which have been rejected by all sane minded persons. 

Incidentally, it is not only the Opposition that has rejected those results, all government invited election observers have said summarily said thing: wrong results.

Former President Yoweri Museveni lost this election though his party may have more parliamentarians which makes it complicated. If it was like the previous time or like other countries where a leader of a party with majority parliamentarians forms a government, former President Museveni would continue to enjoy that, but we all know, he personally worked hard to change that to elected president, now he is a direct recipient of the rejection. Good for him!

Peter Simon



From: 'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>
To: "ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:44 AM
Subject: SV: SV: {UAH} ALERT!!!!!!!!

GOOK,
Oh yes, very much so. Gulu has not changed any one bit. And the desire for those infrastructure is even bigger now. Recall Ongenga Latigo of FDC stressing that bit? Now it should be more about how best to extract utility from those basic infrastructures to propitiate societal development.
Thing with Gulu is that even in the past mandates, there is some obscure distribution or share of power which pehaps has its explanations in the Wars.
Usually the top madates MPs went eitherways but, the lower mandates often went NRM.

Again you also have to know which areas. There is and has always benn  political segregation in Gulu.
There are areas which were the "homeland of trouble" but which are laternt.

So, the tendency is the same. Personally, I would have liked it if they voted NRM. Because this is like wasted votes.

The good news is that the FDC now have very strong parliamentary mandate. Which in effect implies it has to commit more in constructive opposition on key development issues. So, with this strong FDC parliamentary mandates, the FDC are part and parcel and shall be judged accordingly.
Noc'la gaumoy
 
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den fredag, 26 februari 2016 5:08 skrev Gook <grakanga@gmail.com>:


Noc
How did the voting in Gulu go? Hope it reflected your theory about what the people in Gulu needed? Electricity..roads infrastructure ...?


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"What you are we once were, what we are   you shall be!"
An inscription on the walls of a Roman catacomb.

On 25 feb 2016, at 15:01, "'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community"<ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:

So, agents to agents, heyh?!
 
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den torsdag, 25 februari 2016 14:59 skrev Isaac Kakwenza <isaac9779@gmail.com>:


Security agents and NRM functionaries are looking for our agents and FDC leaders across the rural areas of Western, Eastern and Northern Uganda to sign falsified Candidates' Declaration Result Forms. They are being put on gun point to sign them with either an exchange for money or get arrested for those who refuse. We want to bring this out to the people of Uganda, our neighbours and the International community that we have a very good case against the regime, they are scared and uncomfortable in the middle of a stolen election. We can only reject these threats to retain our victory and freedom. And the time is now; Not again five more years of a stolen election, Not fives more years of injustice and illegal occupation. #UgandaDecides #UgandaElections #FreeUganda #FreeBesigye #Uganda
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