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Okello DOKOLO,
I would have loved your lecture if you have talked clearly about the late Chris Hani (RIP) but not this opportunist Ramaphosa. Please, do not forget that politics is collective responsibility and ideological doctrine driven. If one started to sway by losing his/her ideological doctrine balance it means such a person is a rotten seed which is not worth trusting.
Ocaya pOcure
Den tisdag, 19 december 2017 21:19 skrev Bobby Alcantara <bobbyalcantara94@gmail.com>:
Ocaya p'Ocure,
Do you know the pivotal role Cyril Ramaphosa played in resisting the apartheid regime? Just to educate you, For over 20 years, Mr Ramaphosa was the leader of the National Union of Mineworkers, a union he built up to become the most powerful, not only in South Africa but in the whole world. The Union played a key role in fighting apartheid, with Ramaphosa at its head. Except only for the South African Communist Party, no other political organisation made as much sacrifice and shed as much blood as members of the National Union of Mineworkers, led by Ramaphosa, Ramaphosa was also one of those who supported the decision to launch armed struggle in South Africa, a decision taken on 16 December 1961.
Mr Ramaphosa led the ANC delegation in the peace talks that eventually ended apartheid. he is the man who carried the hopes of all balck South Africans when he sat down at the tabel as the leader of his people, alongside Nelson Mandela.
So it is completely wrong for you to look at him as some sort of outsider or interloper. Ramaphisa was one of the key people in the liberation of South Africa. In fact Nelson Mandela chosse him as his successor, but he was frustrtaed by the leadership of the ANC which was completely dominated at the time by the activists who had been in exile, and thats why they choose Thabo Mbeki over Ramaphosa.. Ramaphosa was disappointed, but rather than cause confusion within the ANC, he quit politics and went into business. He only came back into politics to help rescuee the ANC after it appeared to be losing direction. I am therefore not suprised that he has been chosen as leader of the ANC. Dr Xuma is a good person, but she has very little or almost no experience of having fought the apartheid regime. Thats is what weighed against her with people still nostalgic and want to be led by people whose hands got dirty in the liberation struggle.
Bobby
On 19 December 2017 at 19:59, Allan <barigye.rugos@gmail.com> wrote:
EdmundHe he he...only visionary?--On Dec 19, 2017 1:57 PM, "'Edmund N Ayonga' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community" <ugandans-at-heart@ googlegroups.com> wrote:--I think being toxic about anything Raila is tantamount to being the only visionary on anything and everything RAO!On Tuesday, December 19, 2017, 9:44:39 PM GMT+3, 'Owor Kipenji' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com> wrote:Birds of a feather flock together to gather! Never forget that.Kipenji
From: 'Ocaya Mike pOcure' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 10:20
Subject: SV: SV: {UAH} Allan/Edmund/Gook/Pojim/WBK: Cyril Ramaphosa elected president of South Africa's ruling party
Ojame Ndugu KIPENJI,It seems you have some Axe to grind with Raila Odinga. But, there exists a saying in my Acoli Luo lingua, which says; "Tam tye iwi dano ducu", that translates in English that, "Opinions do exist in the minds of every human beings."This means you have every rights to make critiques on Raila Odinga, but I think (he) continued to be hunted and haunted by the imperialists because he is the real firebrand of his late father – AJUMA JARAMOGI Oginga Odinga (RIP) who used to worship Communism during Cold War days!Thank you, Ndugu KIPENJI give the Satan its due and the one of God as well give it to God as the old adage goes! I think Raila Odinga is not imperialist moulded like morbid Cyril Ramaphosa who now seems in need to make an open apology to imperialists like the late JOMO Kenyatta did regards to Mau Mau wars against Colonialism Britain!Please Jadwong, KIPENJI, I think you are more than this your very own sarcastic words about Raila Odinga because know he is not what you are saying. This is just my sober ways how I value your point, but not Ocaya being the JESTER at the palace of Raila Odinga!Ocaya pOcureDen tisdag, 19 december 2017 14:26 skrev 'Owor Kipenji' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com>:
Cyril Ramaphosa was intentionally taken to the business circles to be groomed as a Market friendly stoogeby the exotic power barons.That Brother Raila Amolo and his jesters praise him is a sign that African Opposition politicians are just parrots.who will manipulate the population for self serving reasons.Beware about what you ask for.Kipenji
From: 'Ocaya Mike pOcure' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com>
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Sent: Monday, 18 December 2017, 15:50
Subject: SV: {UAH} Allan/Edmund/Gook/Pojim/WBK: Cyril Ramaphosa elected president of South Africa's ruling party
Muko BARIGYE,I agree with you, the ANC leadership contests is hollow and bad news. YES, let us hope that it would not turned out to be the contests for the Western World anointed and the true Anti-Apartheid leader. WELL, sadly it turned out the ANC party delegates have elected a male chauvinists like Americans who decided to vote for a blind man and pumpkin head Donald Trump. Cyril Ramaphosa is termed to have business friendly doctrine by the Western World media houses with completely less concern and compassions for the poverty African majorities. The big question is; will there be the Land reform in South Africa as was agreed during the Lancaster House Agreement for the end of Apartheid regime in South Africa?CLEARLY, in 1990s I had got the great opportunity to attend a Nobel Peace Prize Lectures by both the late MADIBA and Bishop Desmond TUTU in Uppsala Cathedral in Sweden. That was a very wonderful lectures when Bishop TUTU stated when they were looking for VISA to travel to America during the dark days of Apartheid in South Africa they could not get the VISA. The late MADIBA did not disappoint because he was very thankful to the Nordic countries those gave real supports towards the ANC struggles during those disturbing periods.Sincerely, the ANC strugglers were not anointed by the Western World i.e. UK, US, Australia etc hence, the reason I think the ANC leader, should have been Ms Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma (NDZ) who has a humanely political doctrine. This means, I think despite very disturbing accusation of corruptions by President Zuma one feels the ANC ideological geared doctrine party leadership should be given the role to play but not to Ramaphosa.It would have been good if they decide to take a leaf from Zimbabwe whereby, though MUGABE has been removed, but they did not look for a complete abomination his politics. WELL, Ramaphosa turned a populist regarding corruptions but how clean is he when he covered the massacred of the Union workers not very long ago? I am talking about the Marikana massacre on 16 August 2012, which Ramaphosa became blind about such lethal use of force by South African security forces against civilian protests.Ocaya pOcureDen måndag, 18 december 2017 21:16 skrev Allan <barigye.rugos@gmail.com>:
Another crocodile......no change--On Dec 18, 2017 2:51 PM, <ocennekyon@gmail.com> wrote:--
Cyril Ramaphosa, South Africa's deputy president, was declared the new party leader of the African National Congress on Dec. 18. (Reuters)
By Peter GranitzDecember 18 at 2:13 PM
JOHANNESBURG — South Africa's ruling party on Monday chose Cyril Ramaphosa, a reformer who helped negotiate the end of apartheid, to succeed President Jacob Zuma as the president of the African National Congress and likely the country's next leader.
Ramaphosa was elected at a party conference here after the vote was delayed more than 24 hours to settle internal disputes. He defeated former government minister Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma, who is also Jacob Zuma's ex-wife.
Zuma's second five-year term as party president will end with the close of the convention Wednesday, but he will remain president of the country until 2019. His years as president have been marked by rampant corruption that has left voters disenchanted with the ANC.
Ramaphosa now faces the task of winning back the support of voters.
Twenty-three years after the country held its first all-race election, which the ANC won with Nelson Mandela at the helm, more than one in two South Africans lives in poverty. The country suffers from an unemployment rate of nearly 30 percent. Systemic corruption prompted two ratings agencies to downgrade the country, Africa's most industrialized, to junk status.
Cyril Ramaphosa is the newly elected president of the African National Congress. (Waldo Swiegers/Bloomberg)
The ANC under Zuma has seen its share of the electorate fall in each of the last three elections. In 2016, it lost control of Johannesburg, Tshwane, which includes the capital, Pretoria, and Nelson Mandela Bay.
Ramaphosa founded the National Union of Mineworkers and led the union through strikes that shook the apartheid-era economy. He helped negotiate the end of apartheid on behalf of the ANC and was Mandela's chosen successor to lead the party.
When he lost his chance to become ANC president in the 1990s, Ramaphosa embarked on a lucrative career in the private sector and amassed a fortune that ranked him as one of the country's wealthiest people. His Shanduka Group, a holding company, invested in the mining sector. He divested from the company and stepped down from various corporate boards three years ago.
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She would have been hampered in a general election in 2019 in part because of her name: She and Jacob Zuma have four children and divorced in 1998.
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