{UAH} North MPs seceding from Uganda to form ‘Nile Republic’
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onsdag 10 januari 2018 skrev john kwitonda <kwitonda4@gmail.com>:
let whoever wants to seccede do so. this project uganda is too artificial.we now have rulers whom we dont even know where they came from. just liying to citizens all the time. they are occupied with selfish motives.they are working to liberate their own .so, i suppoer whoever wants to seceed.no point on living with people whom you dont share yr aspirations with--On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Derek Nyero aka ladujah <ladujah17@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:--Madness of King George.
On 20 Dec 2017 14:01, "'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com > wrote:
Annette,You bore!!! Is your mission to embroil, confuse and derail UAH discussions?Why bring in your boring propaganda om each and every issue where it does not belong.STOP DERAILING!!!!--
På ons, dec. 2017 klockan 11:13, 'Annet' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community<ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com > skrev:Peter, etal
Fellow UGANDANS allow me to say that NRM MPS are not telling the truth. They are bunch of liars...thieves and greedy people.
They have been promised to stay as MPS for ever once they chose to change the constitution for M7.
They have been given money and promised more money
They did not consult people unsteady they chose a few they locked them.in hotels and closed it up to be agreement with amending the constitution.
I followed the MP for Rwampala in particular because he rigged the election. They went ahead bribed the court to rule in his favour. There us evidence in places like Meizu where they tell their stories...That mothers VOTED for all family members living in towns or away to dig.
To day he stood up and said that people in Rwampala sent him to amend the constitution in favour of M7 the truth is he did not consult the people of Rwamapara he got his close allies and that was it. In fact many people were still waiting for him to come and consult them.
Why I chose Rwampara it's because of the Bishop of the same place who wanted to change the age for M7 that his young than he is. It is the same place the area MP is now telling lies that his to amend the constitution.
Isingiro...the area MP chose to go to refugees who they temparily bring give small houses use for campaign purposes then return to Rwanda was his area of consultation. He never visited areas of birere....Nd other areas..to day he also came and declared to amend the constitution.
Let me tell you...people in western region are totally not in agreement with changing this bloody article for M7. They are not.
M7 HAS used money and guns to get this bill through and wants it changed for his family and himself. Not anybody else.
Wait and see who will be next in his line--
On 20 Dec 2017 09:16, "Frank Mujabi" <frank.mujabi21@gmail.com> wrote:
Bobby
My late father would have choked on his food to learn that Obote 's son and other Northerners now want to seceed from the Republic of UG, and form the Nile republic, because of the Banyarwanda' s misrule..
M7 right now is behaving exactly like Obote did in 1966, and this episode will end the same way.
Looking at images of what transpired at Parliament yesterday, it was Banyarwanda and Northern soldiers who were hiding in the chapel and waiting to kill the mostly Baganda opposition MP's. ( history repeating itself ?)
What are you going to do about the many northern gun men working for M7 right now ?
It takes a lot of effort to align your people in a cohesive line to do the heavy lifting required to seceed from Uganda.
Since our views on unitary UG seem to be converging, we should find common ground.
--
On 19 Dec 2017 20:38, "Bobby Alcantara" <bobbyalcantara94@gmail.com> wrote:
Akim Odong/ Frank Mujabi,--
I touched on this a while ago, but I think increasingly people in the north will see no purpose continuing to remain part of Uganda. If you see the foolishness taking place now- with Kayibanda Museveni being annointed as life president, why should the people of northern uganda continue to be misruled by a Rwandan citizen? Why cant they just chose a new path and build a new country?. It is so shocking to see what is happening in the so-called Ugandan parliament. I think most people are saying- this is not what we want for our country. We cant continue this way. if the charade in the Uganda parliament is what democracy means, then we want no part of it. We want out. And this voice is getting stronger and stronger.
Bobby
North MPs seceding from Uganda to form 'Nile Republic'
Parliament in session
Forum for Democratic Change Vice President Hon. Reagan Okumu says it is time for northern Uganda and West Nile to break away from Uganda since the president is bent on raping the constitution.
"My people have said that we either go federal or we secede from this country. You have sat on us for a long time," Okumu told plenary on Tuesday.
"We have the human ability to govern ourselves. The destiny of this country will be decided by the people of Uganda," said the Aswa county MP and commissioner of Parliament of Uganda.
Okumu associated himself with the Minority Report which rejects bother the age limit bill and the 7 year-term for the president.
"You cannot amend the constitution before we have tested it. We cannot amend the constitution perennially in favour of one person," he said.
According to Hon Okumu, the debate may take any direction. "But Uganda will either take Federal governance, or we secede. We have our voting patterns and we shall decide."
He added: "I know you have the numbers. You have sat on us, we have the human resources to secede."
Hon. Jimmy Akena, a son to former president Dr Milton Obote, said people have dismissed this issue of secession.
According to Akena, it was on in 1963, it can happen again tomorrow.
"Is this for the interests of the people of Uganda or we are sending Uganda to a path we don't know. Which Ugandans did you consult that said touch it?"
He read to the members an extract of the parliamentary prayer, explain that the first amendment to the constitution was in 1963 to remove the governor General.
"Secession was real in the 60s. And may be real tomorrow. Are we dealing with this matter in a just and faithful manner?"
Akena said only 16 people of those he consulted on constitutional amendments said "touch it".
"Which Ugandans did you consult to tell you to touch it overwhelmingly?" he asked the ruling party NRM MPs who are eager to make Museveni a life president.
This amendment can still lead to bloodshed next year or this year, Akena warned, adding, "If you think you have the numbers here, we have numbers outside there."
Hon. Lyandro Komakech said he had only 6 citizens in Gulu municipality saying "touch it".
"I would like to add that Uganda is a product of historical accidents. If the bus is going to be driven nonstop, the position in northern Uganda is very clear."
Hon Komakech told plenary that the people of Gulu said that if the process is not clear, since they are used to sharing districts, secession is liable since they cannot share resources.
Hon Okin P. P. Ojara asked the Chairperson to give the house evidence of consultations with the police and the army who are the background of security and stability in the country.
"The people of Kitgum are saying "No". They say if the constitution is a mended, they said three things… "Secession, Secession and Secession!" Okin said.
Minister Ecweru threatens to defeat them
But Musa Francis Ecweru, State Minister for Relief and Disaster Preparedness, dismissed Okumu's claims for secession saying Uganda will never break up but remain/stand together.
"We shall defeat anyone who wants to secede," the minister threatened.
He said the people of Amuria have sent him to support the amendment.
"In Amuria age is synonymous with wisdom. The people of Amuria told me that even after the amendment is done with, we will still remain Ugandans."
He went on: "Nobody can come here and talk about secession. It's only in the mind of the person who said it."
Hon Ecweru told Okumu that he cannot use his platform to intimidate them.
"Nobody can intimidate us. I have defeated those who wanted to secede before."
On Monday, Agago North MP Prof. Morris Ogenga Latigo, said the Northern region would be seceding from Uganda.
He said the debate had "reflected a total ban on the Parliament Rules of Procedure with the major interest of only passing the bill."
"We people who come from the North after many years of conflict, the only thing that is sustaining us is fair play; that everybody is to account according to the rules that are established," Latigo said.
He said after elections, it was said that everything was fine, except the people from the North.
Together with Democratic Party President Hon. Norbert Mao, Latigo went on radio stations and promised to secede from the NRM government for abrogating the constitution.
Northerners in the past led by Hon Beatrice Anywar attempted to break away and form the "Nile Republic".
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