{UAH} DR KASHAMBUZI VS BAGANDA: A BRUTAL WAR WITH NO END IN SIGHT.

Frank Mujabi/ John Kwitonda,

Here is Dr Kashambuzi's war with Buganda enterring a new phase. Unfortunately Dr Kashambuzi has banned most of his opponents from his page, so we only tend to get one sided reporting of the debate, which is a shame. Most women want to get a proper massage before enjoying the sexual act., something denied keen observers here.

Bobby

Kerena Lola

2 hrs

You will not succeed at turning a people, Baganda, into a scapegoat for your genocidal mission, Mr Kashambuzi.

I stand against propaganda, I stand against the justification of the suffering and genocide of Baganda in Uganda. I stand against Mr Kashambuzi's civic miseducation.

You may have blocked me from challenging your vile lies about Buganda and Baganda on your wall, Mr Kashambuzi, but I shall continue to respond to you for the simple fact that I understand the poisonous nature of your material. We will not accept to be made "Uganda's" problem/scapegoat by those like Mr Kashambuzi who are desperate to justify the inexcusable aggression towards us since 1966.

Under no circumstances should Mr Kashambuzi be dismissed as merely an unconstructive mind with regard to matters of Uganda; from all indication he is a Museveni propagandist.
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Eric Kashambuzi (23.02.19): 'When you lie or distort facts in order to reach a pre-conceived conclusion you will eventually get caught. So to avoid embarrassment to you or your relatives and friends, stop the practice. There are people who have developed the practice of lying and distortions.'

(24.02.19)' Baganda should stop blaming and threatening westerners for what they are going through under the NRM regimeWe must be bold and tell Baganda the truth even at the risk of making them angry. It is a friend that can convey the bitter truth.The history shows that Baganda have contributed to problems since before colonial rule. Baganda collaborated with Arabs in slave trade that depopulated neighboring territoried. Baganda collaborated with the British in the military colonization of Uganda especially in Bunyoro and the administration of conquered people and converting them into Christians.Baganda helped UPC under Obote to form Uganda independence government by blocking DP under the leadership of a Muganda Benedicto Kiwanuka. Baganda facilitated the coup that toppled Obote and brought in Amin in 1971
During the invasion of Uganda in 1972, Baganda refused to collaborate for fear that Obote might return to power and thus helped Amin repel the invaders and continued to murder Ugandans. Baganda helped Museveni to wage a guerilla war that toppled Obote II government in 1985 through Okello and then captured power six months later in January 1986. Baganda didn't favor elections five years after NRM captured power in 1986 for fear that UPC might win again. Baganda have helped NRM win (or steal according to some Ugandans) elections since 1996 and stay in power. Have Baganda MPs voted against NRM in parliament? Has any Muganda minister or ambassador resigned from NRM governnent in protest?Where do you see the hand of westerners in general or Banyankole in particular in all the above developments? I am writing to make all of us take a second look and objectively point a finger at the problem and collectively find a lasting solution peacefully.' We also need to and must disaggregate and understand these people we call Banyankole. Generalization in this case is very wrong.This is civic education.

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Ndagire Muzuukulu Wa Gabunga

1. I agree with you Mr Kashambuzi, you have lied, distorted and hidden your actual motive of preparing the ground for a genocide against Baganda in Uganda for far too long; unfortunately for you, however, many people now understand the true nature of the poisonous material you have termed civic education.

2. Well, it is good that you have an idea that Baganda are indeed going through something, but I would like to ask, which Baganda are threatening westerners, Mr Kashambuzi? Personally, I have not heard Buganda as a nation expressing what you claim.

3. I have told you before and I will say it again you are no friend of Buganda, Mr Kashambuzi.

I remind you of our exchange over a year ago.

Eric Kashambuzi: "I am not a fan of many Baganda because they think I am Obote's adopted son."

In my opinion you disqualified yourself as an unbiased commentator/ advisor on matters to do with Baganda when you wrote the words above along with many of the propaganda/ inciting statements you have made about Baganda as a group of people over the years. I have followed your writing very carefully for some time now, silently hoping, like many people I know, that you would abandon the very destructive path of making Baganda responsible for all that is wrong in Britain's Uganda, for the sake of justice; and instead focus on the real root cause of the problem which is that different nationalities, with different cultures, languages and histories were forced into an unwanted union by the British in 1962 and it has not worked. And will not work until the 15 legitimate nationalities in Britain's Uganda sit down again, this time without the coercion of the British colonizers to forge a forward. The nations within the place we know as "Uganda" have to have the chance to decide for themselves.

Let me get this straight. On the one hand you say that Baganda are parochial in their outlook, not patriotic with regard to "Uganda", but go on to criticise them for having formed alliancies with a non Baganda in the hope that they could work with other nationalities to make "Uganda" work for all?

Eric Kashambuzi

"6. Baganda you chose Obote over your son Kiwanuka."

7. Baganda you chose Museveni over your son Kayiira.

Is It correct then to assume that you are of the view that all nations in the place we know as Uganda today should work only with their own people?

With regard to your number 5.

Eric Kashambuzi: "5. Baganda you chose Amin over Obote your in-law and you know what happened."

There is a lot I am sure many could say, but, I say to you Mr Kashambuzi, Baganda neither deserved to be massacred nor the horrors that followed after the Lubiri attack on 24 May 1966. You may not understand this, you may talk about the good economic situation at the time and throw all manner of statistics at this audience, but sir, Baganda were experiencing a different reality. I know so, most of us, our families have real stories to tell and wounds that will not heal because people like you keep denying the injustice and the crimes committed against a people. I can honestly say this is a major obstacle to the togetherness that you claim you desire to see in "Uganda". Please, I ask you to take a moment to ponder on my words and also reflect on your own words if truly you have no hidden agenda.

Buganda did not collaborate. It resisted British colonial rule.

I remind you; the European came to steal and destroy, Mr Kashambuzi, not to provide benefits to the African.

"The conquest of the earth, which mostly means the taking it away from those who have a different complexition or slightly flatter noses than ourselves, is not a pretty thing when you look into it too much. " Heart of Darkness. (Conrad, J. cited in Lunyiigo, 2011)

Again, your creativity does not change history, Mr Kashambuzi. There was no Buganda/British collaboration. Buganda Kingdom under Ssekabaka Mwanga II resisted British rule. It is this resistance that was the cause of his death. Buganda fought then, and has been fighting ever since.

4. When you say that ' [t]he history shows that Baganda have contributed to problems since before colonial rule.' Are you referring to the same history that shows how Buganda fought the British invaders, fought against the East African Federation that would have seen the swallowing up of the place we know as Uganda today, and advocated for a return to self rule in Uganda because they foresaw the problems of throwing people with different cultures, languages and histories together, problems that people like yourself, claim to only be seeing now?

5 and 6. The problem is that your so-called history is informed by texts written by the British colonizers, the same people who came to steal and destroy under the guise of civilising the African. Mr Kashambuzi, the purpose of most of the writing you cite from the the British invaders was in fact written to justify their atrocities and ease their conscience.

7. On your claim of a plot against DP, Mr Kashambuzi, Ssekabaka Muteesa II informs us:

'The Democratic Party fought the election in Buganda and gained lasting hatred. They were seen as traitors to Buganda, trying to grab office at the expense of loyalty. DP became and remained the most insulting of swear words. [Ssekabaka Muteesa II did not arrange the boycott]... the people had understood without instruction from me, but I would not have been ashamed had I done so." (pg. 137)

8 and 9. Did Baganda show relief from getting respite from being massacred and harassed by Obote? Yes, a natural human reaction. But facilitating Amin, Mr Kashambuzi?

10. On Museveni:

You know better than most of us, Mr Kashambuzi, your boss, Museveni had his on plan that had little to do with Baganda and
used various tricks to drag Baganda and others into his war. He continues to rule not because Baganda want him like you falsely claim, but because he is a man with a gun.

'To do better justice to all concerned I find it necessary to spend a moment analysing some important facts on the ground. Once Yoweri Museveni decided to start serious guerilla activities against the state of Uganda using Tanzania as his base, and given that FRONASA as organisation had infiltrated the whole system of Uganda Government, it was never going to be easy for President Nyerere to wash his hands free of the repercussions. Remember that Yoweri Museveni has no conscience about putting any blame on anybody else so long as it helps him to continue pretending to be looking like. a lamb. Some of those guerilla activities were carried out in the Eastern Region of Uganda, the first effort of "the protracted people's struggle", with Martin Mwesiga, ' William "Black" Mwesigwa, Wukwu Mpima Kazimoto, Roiti Omon'gin and others, but not very successfully as the local population had no stomach for the upheavals that such activities threatened to stir up. In Museveni's language: "they had not been suitably sensitised", although this does not tell us the whole story. Because, quite a few of his friends died in mysterious circumstances, as if they had been either taken there (say to Mbale) to be eliminated, or they may have been unable to win support for such violence in the region, or they may have become betrayed by their leader Museveni, who, as people reported, never tolerated any leadership challenge. So, their elimination by whatever conspiracy achieved the sa.me result for him anyway. Forget the crocodile tears he pretended to cry in "Sowing the mustard seed", this man expended fellow comrades as if they were loose change.' (Dr. A. Bisase, 2012: 99)

Deception used by Museveni to drag Baganda into his war

'The Baganda,The Batoro,The Banyoro, The Bacholi, Langi, Bateso, Ba West-Nilers, Basoga and other tribes of Uganda.

Let us just choose to start with THE LUWERO TRIANGLE where some innocent citizens did not want to give Museveni their little kids to become CHILD SOLDIERS (KADOGOS).
These families were revisited soon after that, by men wearing Uganda Government and speaking Kiswahili as affectedly as possible. They brutalised every parent and left them dead in as total indignity as possible, so that their surviving kids get the ugliest message of their presumed enemy. In fact these were never soldiers of the U.N.L.A., only their uniforms were. But they were men from Museveni's FRONASA Movement. Then soon after that, Museveni's other FRONASA units would emerge from the bush; pretending that they had just chased and defeated the Kikosi Maalum soldiers. Then they would offer to take the remaining kids into Museveni's Bush Army and tell them that he was now their 'benevolent father' who out of the goodness of his heart, was now to take good care of Them. Then he trained them to shoot to kill whoever they were directed to kill but the little girls would then be forced to also provide sexual gratification to his men in the bush. (ibid. 53)

11. "Baganda have helped NRM win (or steal according to some Ugandans) elections since 1996 and stay in power." This is too serious a matter for hearsay, Mr Kashambuzi. If you have evidence attaining to this claim, provide it.

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