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SV: SV: SV: {UAH} GOOK, COLLECT YOUR PROFFESIONOLO MINDS, I NEED YOU TO SCRUTINISE A FRAUD

By  the way GOOK, came to think about it, IS THAT THE SAME ROME THAT WAS NOT BUILT IN ONE DAY?!
Well, in that case, we can start by curbing the corruption at the Courts inform of mysterious disappearancees of Case files, "kitu kidogo" to jury members etc  Along with ensuring that people who are implicated in fraudulent acquisition of Land and Properties do not consciously prolong legal processes by eluding Court summons ( INCLUDING DIASPORA UGANDAN).

That way, the courts can handle more of the epidemic land and property fraud like those beasting Northern Uganda. (within a speedy limited time frame).

When I was at the Gulu Court, the Court registra pointed at a huge crowd (almost like in a stadium) and said..." See those.., its all about land fraud..."
Noc'la gaumoy. 
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den torsdag, 3 augusti 2017 9:58 skrev reggaelucjion soulafunk <reggaelucjion.soulafunk@gmail.com>:


No Okello,
Först off, it is not borring. BUT, you are being a bore by thinking that you have pattent for what is borring ord not.

You have not said a thing that is new. Nothing that is any different from what you blame Dan for.

Rootcause.., rootcause..we got root cause up to THE brim!!!!!
Soon it should be root cause laterntcy in the junk yard ofta idealism.

All that you said is known. Life goes on even in the wildest state.
WHAT YOU SAY DON'T MEAN A THING TO MY APPROACH!!

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE SOLUTION FOR THE ENTIRE BIGGER PICTURE that might never ever be within the nearest times frame.

MY APPROACH ON THE OTHER HAND, is sequental proceeding from the ordinary THAT CAN BE RECTIFIED MOMENTARILY EVEN WHEN THE MEGA SOULSEARCHING PROCESS IS INCOMPLETE.

SÅ, our proceeding approoaches diverge.

We can always find successive remedies.

Like in this particular case, I am restricting myself to corruption, responsibility at THE COURTS.

This can be addressed starting with the local Court clerks, the local CourtRegistra, THE Jury members etc.even while THE curse still persists in many instances ofta the judiciary!!!!!

I don't know if there is any single pattented solution that cures corruption at all levels at once.
But, I do know that People live and grow up now. And, they need judtice in their " this Lifestyle Times".

One pro two files disappearing could be some dirt but when it is routine as GOOK days, then heads must roll at the file archive level.

EQUALLY SO, WHEN A DIASPORA WHO IS IMPLICATED IN A FRAUD CASE KEEP ELUDING COURT SUMMONS EVEN WHEN THEY ARE IN THE COUNTRY, THEN ACTIONS MUST BE TAKEN.For example, have their passport witheld IF possible.

Some times I wonder what lawyers are for!?
I don't need tog know the whole history of corruption tog deal with a particular kind.
Nlgaumoy






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Den 28 juli 2017 01:00 skrev "reggaelucjion soulafunk" <reggaelucjion.soulafunk@gmail.com>:
GOOK
Yeah, now I know why those Jury slicks and Court Clerks and LAWYERS always put on such  smiling faces to manipulate and conjure only to rip off and bite like a mouse!!

I saw them at the Gulu High Court. They come smiling softly saying: "...Ah this case is nothing......This is a straight forward case"...Blah blah blah only to turn around and vote the contrary.
But, I am not easy either. I keep pushing on.
Saw the video Allan just posted about truth coming out? Even if you do it under Victoria, bubbles shall come kullu-kullu-kullu-kullu
Aha aha
Noc'l


2017-07-22 19:30 GMT+02:00 Gook Akanga <grakanga@gmail.com>:
Noc
When in Rome do as the Romans do...and there in lies your problem.
You behave as though you are in Sweden!
Uganda underwent some massive"Fundamental Change" 32+ years ago!
It's no longer the sleepy innocent (according to the present leaders.. )backward country you left ...
You adapt to the present management style or you stand a very high chance of missing your property!

On Jul 22, 2017 19:04, "'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com> wrote:
GOOK
Good, then they have to proceed from proving the authencity of my copy?

I am aware you guys hate the word credibility.

Now, how about the other part of Okankodic Diaspora eluding Court summon even when they are in actual fact in the country?

How do you look at that resolve?
Noc'la gaumoy
 
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den lördag, 22 juli 2017 12:19 skrev Gook Akanga <grakanga@gmail.com>:


Noc
The reason being that the ones you have are not official and might be forgeries?

On Jul 22, 2017 12:09, "'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com> wrote:
AAAHH Esq., just like that? 

Apaaana! 

Then what is the use of the lawyer profession? Oh I see, lets back down and take it nice and slow and drop it at information and interpretation of a plaintiff having a document FROM THE COURT that hints at prior activity at the court, but the Case File is mssing.

Some one has to do some explaining here. Because, that document suggests that there PROBABLY must have been a process. And if there are several others in similar dilema, then there should be some where to proceed. For example the immediate officer or clerk responsible for files or Court  archives.

Not so? The Tanzanian John M Pombe would probably proceed from the Court Clerks and the Court Registras as precedence?

Each time a file goes missing, a registra is fired or suspended pending investigations (( an acting is brought in from another area))?!

If it so wide spread may be a temporary measure is to rotate registras?

That brings us to the DIASPORAS WITH DEEP POCKETS CORRUPTING THE SYSTEM.

Most of the Land and Property fraud cases in Acoli involve participation of diaspora Ugandan. They come with deep pocket and hih society social networks that the ordinary commonality has nothing to counter with.

As you noted, they corrupt the system and take off. Unreachable for the Uganda judicial arm. A case goes on forever. BUT, THEY ELUSIVELY KEEP ON  VISITING UGANDA REGULARLY yet  AVOIDING CALLS FOR COURT APPEARANCE!!!!

They don't appear when summoned. So, cases drag on and on and on for years. Some people even die while the processes have not moved an inch!!

I believe the indigenous law enforcement can do more to rectify this bit.

HOW?

BY CONFISCATING THE PASSPORTS OF THE VISITING DIASPORA  IF THEY HAVE ELUSIVELY AVOIDED COURT SUMMONS: How about that??

Most of these small town Diaspora tourists are known anyway so, reaching them would not be so difficult when / if the law enforcement is informed of their presence.

Perhaps that would ensure that the Court processes are speeded at affordable costs and less pain?!?!?
Noc'la gaumoy.


"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.


Den lördag, 22 juli 2017 1:05 skrev Gook Akanga <grakanga@gmail.com>:


No file no case.. that's why they do a disppearing act in the first case!
How will s judge proceed without s case file?
Hehehehe..you want the case and the file look to see the small boys who know where to hide it... and find it!

On Jul 21, 2017 15:51, "reggaelucjion soulafunk" <reggaelucjion.soulafunk@ gmail.com> wrote:
GOOK....GOOK, you mean you mother gentlemen  ESQers of the Judiciary knew all that went down and still go down and decided to look opposite and feast??

But thank you for the information. Now we know who / whom those burgers are. Still, if the Judiciary guts up on soulcleansing, HEADS MUST ROLL.

Unfortunately, the major players in corrupting the system are DIASPORA UGANDANS!!!!

In Gulu particularly, the Diaspora Ugandan have very huge roles in the scandal due to the wide spread Land and property fraud.

Now tell me, if for example I have copies of earlier handlings. What happens even if the case file has misteriously disappeared?
Noc'la gaumoy


2017-07-20 23:07 GMT+02:00 reggaelucjion soulafunk <reggaelucjion.soulafunk@ gmail.com>:
I got one Amen from Gook, can I get another?
Nlgaumoy

Den 20 juli 2017 12:56 skrev "Gook Akanga" <grakanga@gmail.com>:
Noc
Such instances are unfortunately the order of the day in present day Court system in uganda .
The problem seems to be the poor renumeration of court personal.. currently there is an in going downing of the tools by state attorneys..!
Now having said that...if you don't want your files to do a disppearing act or if you want them to miraculously reappear...talk to the small boys(girls) the office Messengers and court clerk!
Not to mention lobbyist. (Usually go betweens..aka kayungirunzis) who have made a career out of the corruption in the courts!
You ignore these "small" pple at your peril!

The judges and i) other court officers feed off their hands. It's thru them the money changes hands!
These are the practical facts and steps you need to know and take to find your way thru our legal system 

Oh; don't forget the police CID officer in charge of Land.. and the RDC!

On Jul 20, 2017 12:29, "'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community" <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroup s.com> wrote:
GOOK and all of you lawyers alike, 
There is this fraud that has been going on at the High Courts around Uganda.. THE GULU HIGH COURT HAS ITS OVERWHELMING DOS TOO.

HOW DOES A CASE FILE MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEAR FROM THE COURT, JUST LIKE THAT?!
AND, IF IT DOES WHILE SOME PARTS IN CASE ACTUALLY DO HAVE DOCUMENTS THAT INDICATES THAT SUCH A CASE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE COURT, who should be John-M-Pombed first?

Should that not be the COURT REGISTRA?!?!

I am a victim of such fraud at the Gulu High Court. My late father was pushing a FRAUD PROCESS against some individuals. They were in Court a few times and by the time he passed over, the process was still on.

NOW TO MY SURPRISE, THERE SEEM TO BE NO RECORD OF THAT CASE IN THE COURT.

Yet, that case has a vital bearing on another fraud case I am currently pushing at the same Gulu Court.

On the wall of the Court is to be read that the Court is seriously fighting corruption, fraud and mal-practices.

Fine. So, in the event of a case file disappearing, how does a Court deal with that? Not fire the registra?
WHICH HEAD SHOULD MOMENTARILY ROLL PENDING INVESTIGATIONS IN SUCH A CASE?
Noc'la gaumoy
 
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.
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