{UAH} FW: How About That.......!! RESPONSE to MUSOKE: Message To UNAA Members

In a Law Suit [Of some sorts...!!] 

Rahim Kabagambe Vs UNAA [Brian Kwesiga] 

 

 Kamugisha

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From: Edriss Kironde
Date: Monday, September 30, 2013
Subject: UNAALIST RESPONSE to MUSOKE: Message To UNAA Members
To: ikabwama@gmail.com

Long before this constitution came into play, and when unaa was threatened with legal issues with the , I had suggested to create a unaa legal fund, then a fund of purpose was set up when another organisation was registered with a name similar to unaa, a number of peo op le contributed to that fund.

(1) Rahim vs UNAA fund, I will not be in position to assist. Here, the UNAA EC 2013 can jointly sue the BOT for the oversight they provided, and I do not think they will be of funds.

(2) However,  UNAA vs Rahim and agents, sure, that fund can be set up

Agreed. Yeah why not setup a legal fund seeing that this whole thing is going in that direction!

You in support Edriss?

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> On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:37 PM, "Brian Kwesiga" <brian.kwesiga@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Edriss,
>
> Since Rahim is your fellow collegaue in the UNAA Council, and you have seniority over him in that body; perhaps you can help set up a legal fund for him?
>
> I am sure he would appreciate the effort and would be a step towards working together.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edriss Kironde [mailto:edriss.kironde@gmail.com]
> Sent: 09/30/2013 05:07:13 PM
> To: unaalist@unaa.memberclicks.net
> Subject: RESPONSE to MUSOKE: Message To UNAA Members
>
> Rahim gave intent to sue and needs to be supported,  really.
>
> The BOT is the barrier to that it intervenes to prevent the court process,
> however one not satisfied with their ruling, the constitution we frequently
> refer, directs one to seek legal redress.
>
> Because the Teasurer had been duly elected, he was given an option to
> resign. We cannot talk of the rule of law when we discourage people not to
> seek its intervention.
>
> I am sure if the courts rule that he was duly elected, BOT will have been
> found in error and the irganisation can appeal or close the case.
>
> If we do not explore legal redress, the malpractices are bound to be
> repeated.
>
> The short ansewr to really is really.
> On Sep 30, 2013 2:40 PM, "jonathonssemanda@hotmail.com" <
> jonathonssemanda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Kironde,
>>
>> You stated "that such records will be handy in Federal and State Courts"
>>
>> Seriously????
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 3:50 PM, "Edriss Kironde" <edriss.kironde@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The Kenyan high court ruled today that there irregularities in Senator
>> Wetangula ekection in Bungoma and thus nullified.  He was announced and
>> even sworn in, he is no longer in the Senate. I am sure the UNAA EC kept
>> the ballots and one need not be a genius to  know why . Since the process
>> is questionable,  such records will become handy in Federal and State
>> courts as Rahim deadline he issued with intent to sue is nearing today.
>>> On Sep 30, 2013 1:24 PM, "donosen@yahoo.com" <donosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mr. Musinguzi,
>>> I understand you are addressing Mr. Musoke but please allow me to ask
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Scenario:******
>>> Nick (me) did not send in anything to the UNAAEC but somehow I have a
>>> buddy on the team (EC) who sneaks my name on the ballot and my wife votes
>>> for me - winning the seat unopposed.
>>> Weeks down the road someone finds out that not only didn't I submit any
>>> documentation, I did not meet basic requirements to be on the ballot. ***
>>> *
>>> Does my case require to be referred to the council or can the BOT just
>>> out right kick me out since I was not supposed to be there in the first
>>> place? ****
>>> I am sure the article you referred to only applies to genuinely elected
>>> member who met all requirements. Is that correct?****
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>
>>> NNK
>>>
>>>  *From:* Martin Musinguzi <musinguzimartin@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* donosen@yahoo.com
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 12:47 PM
>>> *Subject:* UNAALIST RESPONSE to MUSOKE: Message To UNAA Members
>>>
>>> Mr. Musoke:
>>>
>>> Thanks for reaching out for an explanation. Unfortunately, I do not have
>>> to explain as the Constitution spells it out quite clearly. Here goes:
>>>
>>> 1) Finality of the BOT Decision: The decision regarding Mr. Kabagambe,
>>> inasmuchas, it is a BOT decision, to the rest of UNAA -is or should be but
>>> a "RECOMMENDATION" pursuant to the UNAA Constitution:
>>>
>>> Art. 5.2: (enumerating) Powers and responsibilities of the UNAA Board of
>>> Trustees: The UNAA Board of Trustees shall *inter alia:*
>>> f) *Recommend *to the UNAA Council the suspension or impeachment with
>>> cause any member of the Council, Executive Committee or the Board of
>>> Trustees, and to present the* decision* of the Council to the next
>>> Annual General Meeting *for review and final disposition*; (emphasis all
>>> mine for sake of clarity)
>>>
>>> According to the latest (9th Ed.) Black's Law Dictionary, a search for
>>> "recommendation" turns up one result : "report with recommendation" - thus
>>> it is not even dignified with its own definition here! However, Black's Law
>>> highlights the fact that a report normally comes with a recommendation.
>>> Defined as: *A formal oral or written presentation of facts or a
>>> recommendation for action.*  Thus, the UNAA BOT is supposed to
>>> investigate a petition, and make a report of its findings with appropriate
>>> recommendations.
>>>
>>> 2) On your second question, the body that is supposed to subject a UNAA
>>> BOT Recommendation (NOT Decision) to *further review* is the UNAA AGM
>>> and that would  be AFTER the UNAA Council has made a Decision on [that]
>>> recommendation (sic).
>>>
>>> My brother, Mr. Musoke, I do NOT see how the BOT Decision or
>>> Recommendation can be final without being subject to further review by the
>>> UNAA Council and the Almighty UNAA AGM. I hope this simple explanation
>>> allays your confusion.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Martin Musinguzi, Esq
>>>
>>> Musinguzi Law Group
>>> 525 North Tryon St.
>>> Suite 1600
>>> Charlotte, NC 28202
>>> +1(617) 416-0749
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Joseph Musoke wrote:
>>>
>>>   Mr Musinguzi,
>>> I am confused about your statement that the BoT "...decision regarding Mr
>>> Kabagambe is not final and is *clearly* subject to further review".
>>> (Emphasis is mine).
>>> 1. why isn't it final?
>>> 2. which body would subject it to further review?
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> For a faster response please contact me at 415.789.6427
>>>
>>>  *From:* Martin Musinguzi <musinguzimartin@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* joseph.musoke@ymail.com
>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 3:17 PM
>>> *Subject:* UNAALIST Message To UNAA Members
>>>
>>> Patrick:
>>>
>>> I wouldn't go as far as saying the BOT has *failed* since their decision
>>> and/or recommendation regarding Mr. Kabagambe is not final and is clearly
>>> subject to further review.
>>>
>>> Apart from positively being guilty of exercising an over-zealous
>>> eagerness to serve their constituents (UNAA), this thing can be resolved
>>> without resorting to legal recourse. As the UNAA Constitution and any
>>> lawyer will advise, legal action should be the very last resort,
>>> particularly in this case. On that note, in my humble opinion "Legal
>>> Implications" should not even be discussed.
>>>
>>> So hold your horses, this doozie will yet be resolved -hopefully before
>>> Mr. Kabagambe's Deadline!
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Martin Musinguzi, Esq
>>>
>>> Musinguzi Law Group
>>> 525 North Tryon St.
>>> Suite 1600
>>> Charlotte, NC 28202
>>> +1(617) 416-0749
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Patrick Ogwang wrote:
>>>
>>> Members:
>>> The BOT has failed us.
>>> Rahim Kabagambe, you are a very kind man.
>>> We pray the BOT has the presence of mind to capture how big this is and
>>> steer clean of any legal action
>>> Martin, Liz, Joseph(lawyers)
>>> What are legal implications assuming this goes legal?
>>> Patrick Ogwang
>>> President UAADFW
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2013 5:03 PM, "Martin Musinguzi" <musinguzimartin@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Rahim Kabagambe, for clearing the air. I was wondering when
>>> you were going to stand up. I guess the ball is now in the UNAA BOT's
>>> court.
>>>
>>> Thank you Liz Rukundo for such an excellent dissection of the UNAA
>>> Constitution. Very refreshing!
>>>
>>> Thank you all again.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Martin Musinguzi, Esq
>>>
>>> Musinguzi Law Group
>>> 525 North Tryon St.
>>> Suite 1600
>>> Charlotte, NC 28202
>>> +1(617) 416-0749
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Rahim Kabagambe wrote:
>>>
>>>   Dear UNAA Members,
>>>
>>> On September 24th the Chairman of the BOT posted a very disturbing
>>> ruling which stated that after very careful examination the UNAA BOT
>>> concluded that I was not a member in good standing by August 15th and
>>> that I fraudulently sought to become the Male Youth Representative for
>>> Canada.
>>>
>>> The Chairman of the BOT did in fact call me a few days ago and in a very
>>> short conversation asked who I was among other pleasantries. Not once did
>>> he ask me about my payment for UNAA Membership or the circumstance of who
>>> nominated me as a candidate.
>>>
>>> My fellow members, I wish the Chairman had asked me these simple
>>> questions and given me a chance to explain myself. It would have saved UNAA
>>> members all this pain and the BOT great embarrassment. It would also have
>>> saved me the great embarrassment of being unfairly labeled as a fraud.
>>>
>>> Please be informed that I have just been copied on an email to the UNAA
>>> EC and the UNAABOT which contains powerful, incontrovertible and
>>> irrefutable evidence that I became a UNAA member on August 14th 2013.
>>>
>>> I have also asked the Chairman of the UNAA BOT to set the record straight
>>> by completely withdrawing his very injurious ruling and issuing on UNAALIST
>>> a declaration which states that the UNAA BOT Investigation fell short, that
>>> I was a fully paid up UNAA Member on August 14th 2013 and that the UNAA
>>> BOT was not able to prove any fraud on my part. I have asked that this very
>>> fair and balanced request be posted before 5pm 30th September 2013 to
>>> UNAALIST and all other forums; UNAANET, UAH, KigeziNet, UAA-DFW, etc on
>>> which the communication has been forwarded to.
>>>
>>> I am a young Ugandan who is trying to make a difference in my life and my
>>> community. I am just setting out on my career, building a personal
>>> reputation and I take ethics very seriously. I hope you can all understand
>>> the great danger of having emails all over the internet accusing me of
>>> fraudulent activity.
>>>
>>> Indeed some of you on UNAALIST have propagated what are clearly serious
>>> lies from the Chairman of the UNAA BOT. Please cease this destructive
>>> action. Under these circumstances, I also hope you will all understand that
>>> if the Chairman of the BOT does not issue this retraction to my
>>> satisfaction, I will seek legal action. I hope it does not come to that
>>> though since as a duly elected UNAA Council member, I will be working with
>>> him for the next two years as he is a colleague in the UNAA leadership.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time and patience as we work through all
>>> this, and I look forward to having all this behind us.
>>>
>>> Rahim Kabagambe
>>> UNAA Council - Male Youth, Canada
>>>
>>>
>>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>> Email: info@unaa.org
>>>
>>>
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>>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>> Email: info@unaa.org
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>>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>> Email: info@unaa.org
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>>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>> Email: info@unaa.org
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>>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>> Email: info@unaa.org
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>>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>> Email: info@unaa.org
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>>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
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>>> Email: info@unaa.org
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>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>
>> Email: info@unaa.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153
>> . Arlington. MA . 02476
>>
>> Email: info@unaa.org
>>
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Ugandan North America Association . 1337 Massachusetts Avenue . Suite 153 . Arlington. MA . 02476

Email: info@unaa.org