SV: {UAH} US, Cuba in highest-level talks to end 60 years of hostilities ~ Ugandans At Heart (UAH)

Edward,

"......You did not stand up to protest on this dehumanization for the man was a dictator. ........"

Didn't I?

Its not the American (USA) democracy walking into Cuba.

I wish you could account for the common denominators.May be you see what many others don't. Plase, could / would you make an outline analogue?

Noc'la g

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den söndag, 12 april 2015 19:25 skrev Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>:

Noc'L

Well you cannot limit your discussion to let us throw this change into this country but limit yourself from reading the report card of the outcome sir. Changes have happened in Libya and a dictator was killed but thrown into a meat freezer so that people can watch him in pain when dead. You did not stand up to protest on this dehumanization for the man was a dictator. Well how democratic is Libya today?

My fear is that you are preaching Cuba today and two years down the road you will erase it off the screen as you so did to Libya, to Liberia, and so many countries that are today enjoying The American democracy which is walking into Cuba.

On the 49^th Parallel

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Subject: SV: {UAH} US, Cuba in highest-level talks to end 60 years of hostilities

Edward Mulindwa,

Evidently, in ur world, there is no relativity and, no objectivity neither.Things are just rigidly in "black or white".

Yet, going by how ou have been defending totalitarian and authortarian despots on UAH,you yourself don't appear to belive in your own conviction: "once a Devil, always a Devil".

All is relative. Two individuals under exactly the same conditions may react differently to exactly the same stimuli.

Why draw in Libya here?

Noc'l

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den söndag, 12 april 2015 17:55 skrev Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>:

And you preached the salvation that went to Libya to pull them from a dictatorial government. The danger with discussing with you is that you erase these countries as soon as they receive these changes. I would love an update from you on Tripoli by now. I have been in Cuba several times, this summer I am going into two countries, I have a vacation planned into Cuba and I am attending a conference in Uganda. Watch that relationship opening up but watch how the lives are going to be very changed. Poverty at worst is going to be compulsory and Cuba is going to enter a massive debt, then those of us that have been vacationing there and taking a whole whack of money will find another place to go to.

There is a reason we have been flying into Cuba than going to Florida.

On the 49^th Parallel

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Subject: SV: {UAH} US, Cuba in highest-level talks to end 60 years of hostilities

The Cuban President represents the interest of the Cubans. Many Cubans have died trying to cross the ocean

due to the primitive hostility against and isolation of Cuba.

The Cubans themselves know time is ripe now. Subsequently, they have already been gradually transforming. So, this won't be any shock.

I do not need to fly into Cuba.I already have many friends from Cuba

including a girl friend.

What I preferr right now is to analyse the Cuban reactions.

Have you witness any substantial counter reaction among the Cubans (in Cuba) against the change of policy (both USA's and Cuba's)?

If you have, please post them here so we UAH-ers could follow.Basically, it is the reaction of the people of Cuba that is relevant here.

Noc'l

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den söndag, 12 april 2015 14:51 skrev Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>:

Nock'L

Fly into The Dominican Republic then fly into Cuba to understand my argument. There is a point we need to reach to understand that life is more than Walmart MacDonald and Kentucky fried chicken.

On the 49^th Parallel

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Subject: SV: {UAH} US, Cuba in highest-level talks to end 60 years of hostilities

Edward,

That too, is one way of looking at it.

Some people who really love Cuba and who think that Cuba is much more than just the georgraphical features ((and the majority of Cubans who believe that Cuba is more the people)) believe that this is one of the greatest climax for Cuba in the past century.

That is why Cubans themselves started the democratic transpormation of both the economy and politics.

No more "rice & beans" illusion!!

This is for Cubans and the American regions, so to say. And, it is mutual.

Noc'la gaumoy

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den söndag, 12 april 2015 10:07 skrev Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>:

It is very sad for this is the last part of Cuba many of us know, it is now going to become a Florida or a Miami. If you love Cuba kindly fly in and enjoy what it is before Americans screw it up.

On the 49^th Parallel

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US, Cuba in highest-level talks to end 60 years of hostilities

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US President Barack Obama shakes hands with Cuba's President Raul Castro during the Summit of the Americas in Panama City, April 11, 2015. — Reuters picPANAMA CITY, April 12 — President Barack Obama met Cuban President Raul Castro yesterday in the highest-level talks between the two countries in nearly 60 years, and the two men agreed to push ahead on improving relations after decades of hostility.

Describing their private meeting as "historic," Obama said the two countries can end the antagonism of the Cold War era, although he also said he would continue to pressure the communist-led country on democracy and its human rights record.

"We are now in a position to move on a path toward the future," Obama told Castro as they met in Panama, where they were both attending a summit of leaders from across the Americas.

Obama said there would still be "deep and significant differences" between the two governments and that he would continue to raise concerns on democracy and human rights in Cuba, while Castro will criticise US policies.

"But I think what we have both concluded is that we can disagree with the spirit of respect and civility, and that over time it is possible for us to turn the page and develop a new relationship in our two countries."

The two men agreed in December to move to normalise relations, including seeking to restore diplomatic ties that were broken off by Washington in 1961.

Obama said he decided to overturn longstanding US policy on Cuba because the old approach of open hostility and economic sanctions had failed to force through major changes on the island and it was time to try something new.

Since then, he has relaxed some restrictions on travel and trade with Cuba.

At their meeting on Saturday, Obama and Castro sat side by side in polished, wooden chairs in a small conference room. The mood cordial but businesslike.

Both wore dark suits and each nodded and smiled at some of the comments made by the other in brief statements to reporters before they began their talks.

Castro said he would continue to take steps toward normalising relations with Washington, and was open to discussing human rights and other issues.

"So we are willing to discuss everything, but we need to be patient, very patient. Some things we will agree on; others we will disagree," said the 83-year-old leader, who took over as president of Cuba in 2008 when his older brother, Fidel Castro, stepped aside because of ill health.

Cautious reforms

Raul Castro has already undertaken some market-style reforms to try to strengthen Cuba's economy but he is moving cautiously and he has made clear that he has no intention of allowing an end to communist rule.

The last time the leaders of the two countries held a substantive meeting was in 1956, when Dwight Eisenhower was US president and Fulgencio Batista was the U.S.-backed dictator in power in Havana. That meeting was also in Panama.

The Castro brothers toppled Batista in a revolution on January 1, 1959 and relations between the United States and Cuba quickly deteriorated.

Fidel Castro became a Cold War ally of the Soviet Union and the rivalries took the world to the brink of a nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis in October, 1962.

Now that relations are improving, Obama is close to removing Cuba from a US list of countries that it says sponsor terrorism.

A senior US official said Obama will make his decision in coming days and that efforts to reopen Cuban and US embassies should be concluded relatively quickly.

Since 1977, the two countries have maintained contact through interests sections in Havana and Washington and in recent years they have cooperated on migration, drug trafficking and other issues.

Castro's government has called Cuba's inclusion on the state terrorism list a hindrance to restoring diplomatic ties.

Cuba was first placed on the list in 1982 when it supported Marxist rebellions in Latin America but that backing stopped with the end of the Cold War. The only other countries currently on the list are Iran, Syria and Sudan

Obama, a Democrat, has faced some criticism inside the US Congress for his dramatic shift on Cuba policy. Critics say he has given up too much without first insisting on political reform on the island.

The US president can continue to ease specific sanctions but the trade embargo against the island can be overturned only by the Republican-controlled Congress. — Reuters

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Gwokto La'Kitgum

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