SV: {UAH} Merging with UPC will be NRM's downfall. UPC is badluck!

AKIM,

YES IT  DOES.., THEY VERY MUCH DO!!! But that they don't to your kind, I do understand.

Your perspective and mine diverge. And I am glad they do. I feel more secure knowing that.

For people like me, those are fundamentally beneficial infrastructure investments to develope on and from which

to derive major cultural propitiation.

You have not answered my question. Why are you deluding / avoiding?

I requested you to articulate even as an outline, what in your view are the most immediate priority(ies) for the coming mandate periods over to

2030?

First give me that before parading insignificant analogues.

".......Uganda does not need poorly built shopping malls, bridges made of reeds and roads leading to no where; but a political foundation based on the three principles of rights, justice and liberty. Which federalism alone, can bring forth........

 

What did you do to point out the discrepancies to relevant authority/ies?

Turned and look opposite waiting to fix it first when you deliver federalism, isn't it?

Noc'la gaumoy

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den torsdag, 19 november 2015 7:41 skrev akim odong <akimodong@gmail.com>:

LAduma;

The roads in Gulu and Arua does not represent anything. It is like mistaking a black woman who has bleached her face for a white woman. It is cosmetic sir!

We argue that these roads lead to no where without political foundation. We want a system of governance that gives people rights, voices and justice. Countries that have gone for cosmetic infrastructure have been exposed as "ovio kabisa" and have fallen by the way side. Simply because, the leaders thought like you. And their citizens who thought like me Akim, were eliminated.  Syria, Libya, help me name them have all been turned to rubble and their people caught up in a war they cannot escape and the over spill has reached the tranquil of Sweden and other European nations, threatening the peace of other migrants, because the moment the right wing takes over in Sweden or any European country, sometime soon, then migrants including the settled but comfortable Ugandans will realise that they have fallen victim to xenophobia because some stupid leader far away, put physical infrastructure ahead of a good political foundation. And in this case, the leader is Assad of Syria and with that of Mu7 pending, it will make it a double jeopardy for many Ugandans in the diaspora.

Uganda does not need poorly built shopping malls, bridges made of reeds and roads leading to no where; but a political foundation based on the three principles of rights, justice and liberty. Which federalism alone, can bring forth.

Akim .

Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:56 PM, 'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Akim, next time you come to Gulu, you'll not miss to see the good roads to Arua, to Kitgum, to Juba etc.

I am sure if you preoccupation with denial does not stain your sight, you might see the RURAL ELECTRIFICATION impact on schools like 

Bungatira, centers along Kitgum, Palabek, Pawel, Atiyak, Patiko, Laliya, Lukwiyakare St. Marys mm.

THOSE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENTS ARE THERE. Just be hornest to yourself.

Like I was saying, these things are not finite. They go in phases. Now that we have relatively good roads and better power supply is in focus,

we should now be moving on to the next phase of how best to draw utility from the same.

That is what I expect experts like you among other to be figuring ut.

So, my brother, what do you suppose is the most urgent priority to utilise from this? Eletrification of schools, hospitals, public utilities, water pumps,

town bus services, public washing houses, modern postal services............. What should be the next priority this coming mandate period?

That is what I preferr to discus. How about you? Negative developments?

Nockrach-laduma Gaumoy

 

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den onsdag, 18 november 2015 18:44 skrev akim odong <akimodong@gmail.com>:

LAduma;;

What infrastural development are taking place in Uganda worth writing home about. Is Kampala Gulu road a dual carriuage way like it was planned to be?

What hospital has the NRM built in your home towns of Gulu and Kampala? 

I think you need help!

Akim

Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 2:07 PM, 'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Ahmed,

It seems you sweepingly parade names without really sure of respective contributions. 

But we can live with that. I am one of those who would vote NRM if there were elections today to which I were legible.

Of course, I would vote NRM on basis of ongoing concrete infrastructure developments like road constructions, rural electrification schemes and hydro power projects etc. Why not? They have some thing to show that can develop further.

So, the politician who would get my vote in Gulu or Kampala (both are home), would be the one who talks and presents "how we go from prevalent".

Now we are having electricity and roads are relatively good. So, the one who gets my vote would be the one who "ear-marks" concrete developments. Especiaslly those that impact the simple, simple daily live of a common / regular citizen.

When it comes to the UPC saga however, as one who adores "structural functionalism" and correctness, if find it odd and incorrect that such a major old timer party like the UPC stresses up such a major decision without anchoring it thoroughly in the party organs.

I don't have to be a UPC to point that. I would say the same if it were the NRM, DP,CP or FDC.

So of you as a journalist, I would expect more factor based observations. For example, I would expect you to dig deeper and come out with unbiased analysis in terms of procedures, structure etc.

What do you think about the decision process in this context?

As said, as a Gululian, I would definitivt vote NRM today yet still wonder why Akena just does not singly cross over to the NRM?

Noc'la gaumoy

 

"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"….noc'la gaumoy.

Den onsdag, 18 november 2015 10:54 skrev Ahmed Musaazi <akmusaazi1966@gmail.com>:

UPC is one of our independence parties and in allaiance with KY , it
got us independence, NRM is a home of former parties including UPC,
and Northerners are also Ugandans, and many like Yekosofati ENgur,
Martin ALiker, OCheing, did a tremendable job, and some were in DP as
early as 1954, like Tiberio Okeny, Andrew Adimola, even some were
founder members of UPM like Okum, Akena P'ojock, some were in FRONASA
, some in UFM like the late Maj. Oboma.
Even Amama Mbabazi group has Olara Otunnu, Maama Mabira maong others,
including DP President Mao Norbert.
More so, Maama Miria Obote is our own sister and Jimmy Akena our own
son, we can not dison him.
Probably, this will contribute to national integration.
Since independence parties have turned themselves into regional
groups, UPC for Lango and DP for Buganda, this alliance should
champion a federal form of government so that Akena becomes the
Regional Premier of Lango, Mao becomes Regional Premier of Acholi, and
we elect our own Premier here.
Northerners dominated KAR and we did not complain until Obote misused
them during 1966 Crisis.
They are also Ugandans just like our selves, Africans, just like our
sleves, Christians and muslims, just like our selves, and NRM, FDC, DP
,UPC etc... just like our selves.
So alliances if well principled and motivated, are not bad.

On 11/17/15, Gwokto La'Kitgum <lakitgum@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whats wrong with you Baboons? Y'all forget Museveni played Obote in
> Akena-Amongi wedding drama. Akena is a member of the *first family* and
> therefore gotta take his bite of the Royal House of Kaguta.
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Gook <grakanga@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jimmy
>> Is that what happened to Buganda?
>>
>>
>> Sent from Gook's iPatch!
>>
>>
>> "What you are we once were, what we are  you shall be!"
>> An inscription on the walls of a Roman catacomb.
>>
>> On 17 nov 2015, at 15:33, Jim Muwanga <muwangajim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Merging with UPC will be NRM's downfall or nail in the coffin!  UPC is
>> badluck!
>>
>> UPC was cursed by Buganda
>>
>> Look at what happened to FDC when Besigye mbu was having talks with UPC
>> exiles and Kony
>>
>> Look at what happened to TDA
>>
>> Any one who comes near UPC is a deadite me thinks
>>
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> *"Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building", Jim Hightower*
>
> "*But this I know, UPC believed and still believes in*
>
> *very high education. We can call Obote all bad names we have, but the
> bottom line remains that he got more scholarships for Buganda than all
> previous Uganda leaders combined. That includes Sir Edward Mutesa,
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